Brass getting stuck in sizing die, whats up
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Fork Horn
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Brass getting stuck in sizing die, whats up
Hello
Thanks in advance for any input. I'm kind of new to reloading, have been doing it just under one year and I've come across a problem that I've never experienced before.
When reloading my 30-06 brass, all of which have been picked up spent at a public shooting range, I tumble them, deprime them(with a universal depriming die), clean the primer pocket and then after using a little lube on the necks(inside and out) Irun them through the resizing, depriming RCBS die. I set the die so it just touches the shellholder in its highest position.
The last inch or so it becomes harder than normal to get the arm of the press pulled down, but I can do it. Twice when pulling the arm back up the shellholder has ripped the brass edging away from the case, leaving the case stuck in the die. Obviously the shell was pressed to hard into the die and heres my question, Why? I've probably reloaded these cases before and until this time have never experienced this problem. The problem seems to be the whole batch and not one or two cases, though some are definitely harder. I can't read the labeling on the brass once its ripped off to see what brand that particular case it was. Though it definitely is 30-06.
I have to take the stuck case to work, use the drill press to drill out the case just enough to get an easy out in and by putting the die in a vise and using a big cresent wrench remove the brass. Very carefully so as not to touch the inside of the die.
I have been reading about neck sizing only dies? Should I being using these instead of a full length die.
Sorry for the long post.
Thanks
Dan
Thanks in advance for any input. I'm kind of new to reloading, have been doing it just under one year and I've come across a problem that I've never experienced before.
When reloading my 30-06 brass, all of which have been picked up spent at a public shooting range, I tumble them, deprime them(with a universal depriming die), clean the primer pocket and then after using a little lube on the necks(inside and out) Irun them through the resizing, depriming RCBS die. I set the die so it just touches the shellholder in its highest position.
The last inch or so it becomes harder than normal to get the arm of the press pulled down, but I can do it. Twice when pulling the arm back up the shellholder has ripped the brass edging away from the case, leaving the case stuck in the die. Obviously the shell was pressed to hard into the die and heres my question, Why? I've probably reloaded these cases before and until this time have never experienced this problem. The problem seems to be the whole batch and not one or two cases, though some are definitely harder. I can't read the labeling on the brass once its ripped off to see what brand that particular case it was. Though it definitely is 30-06.
I have to take the stuck case to work, use the drill press to drill out the case just enough to get an easy out in and by putting the die in a vise and using a big cresent wrench remove the brass. Very carefully so as not to touch the inside of the die.
I have been reading about neck sizing only dies? Should I being using these instead of a full length die.
Sorry for the long post.
Thanks
Dan
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Brass getting stuck in sizing die, whats up
I never lube the outside of the neck. Just lube the INSIDE of the neck and the case body itself. Be careful not to get lube on the shoulder of the case, or it will cause dents. Also, are you definitely sure you are trying to resize 30-06 brass? Surely you can read a manufacturer on the case headstamp...??? Is it steel or brass?
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Fork Horn
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RE: Brass getting stuck in sizing die, whats up
I concentrated more on the neck and not the case body and that is probably the problem. I've not done rifle bullets for a while, usually doing handgun bullets where I don't use lube.
Thanks for your help. I'm sure I'll not forget the case body from now on since its a pain getting the stuck brass out of the resizing die.
Thanks again
Dan
Thanks for your help. I'm sure I'll not forget the case body from now on since its a pain getting the stuck brass out of the resizing die.
Thanks again
Dan
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RE: Brass getting stuck in sizing die, whats up
If you're full length resizing you need to lube the entire case because the dies is resizing the whole thing. You only have to lube the necks if you're just neck sizing.
Mike
Mike
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RE: Brass getting stuck in sizing die, whats up
Another really good lube is Imperial Sizing Die Wax. Just a tiny amount smeared on each case is enough and it works great. A little goes a long way. It takes a little more time than spray-on lubes, but it's not as messy and I've never had any problem with denting shoulders. I use it to neck down 7mm Rem Mag brass to 257 Wby. I did 50 cases and only lost one to a creased neck, and this was one step resizing straight into a 257 Wby FL die.
Mike
Mike
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RE: Brass getting stuck in sizing die, whats up
YOU MUST LUBE the entire case when full length size the case, if you don't it will get stuck every time in any cartridge.. I placed a full tube of sizing lube on a pad 35 years ago and am still using it to this day.. a roll or two across the top with a little pressure does the trick, I use moly powder on the top area both inside and out.. have never had a case stuck in 10'000's of loading...