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Old 08-29-2008, 10:08 PM   #1
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Default Not happy with 270wsm

I purchased a 270wsm 3 years ago, thinking this would be a good caliber ( beings I hunted 20+ years with a 270win with good success ) I reload all of my own bullets and with the old 270win I had it dialed down to about 1/2" Three shot group at 100yds. but what I like best was that this 130 grain siarra bt had the knock down power ( on Minnesota whitetails )from 50yds to 300yds it would leave a great exit hole and drop them in their tracks, I reloaded that 130 siarra to travel at 3100 fps..
Now this 270wsm is another story, I don't use the 130 sierra in this gun because I was told that I need to use a premium bullet and the sierra would break up on close shots because of the higher velocity. so I tried the 130 grain ballistic tips ( they sucked ) they were very accurate but when hitting a whitetail in the front shoulder at 75 yrds it fragmented, didnt even exit. Last year I aquired a box of Barnes xlc 270 130grn bullets loaded them the same as I did the ballistic tips. shot another average deer at between 75 and 100 yards. ( Had to shoot it twice behind front shoulder ) bullet holes same size coming out as they did going in.
Im reloading to achevie around 3200fps. what bullet can I use that wont blow up ( like the ballistic tips ?)Orlike the barnes XLC( and not expand at all )??????
There has got to be a bullet out there that works at 50Yds as well as 300YDs and at a higher velocity ( 3200 + fps ). Please help "" Steve
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Old 08-30-2008, 07:29 AM   #2
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Default RE: Not happy with 270wsm

Try some 140's I've gotten excellent accuracy from the 140 gr Accubonds and SST's. You don't need 3200 fps to take a deer.
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Old 08-30-2008, 07:36 AM   #3
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Default RE: Not happy with 270wsm

for deer go back to the 130 sierra, or a 130 sst, you do not need a prem. bullet for deer hunting.
I shoot 140 gr ballistic tips from my 7mm STW at 3550 fps and as long as I stay off the shoulder they exit most of the time.
What your asking is pretty hard to do, a bullet that expands the same at 50 yards and 300. I experienced the same thing with about any bullet from my 270 weatherby, the bullets that worked well in my 270 win, either overexpanded or zipped right through deer when shot from the weatherby.
I finaly settled on the sierra 140 gr gameking hollow point, the BC is pretty low but it works fine to 400 or so.
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Old 08-30-2008, 11:49 AM   #4
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Default RE: Not happy with 270wsm

Stevie - I am wondering who the 'expert' was that told you you needed premium bullets for the 270 WSM. That was inaccurate advice. I'd try the 130 gr Sierras out of your rifle and see how they shoot.
Please don't discount the Nosler BT on one deer. I've use them exclusively in my 270 and have dropped countless deer with them form point blank to way out there. From what I've 'heard' the earlier BTs had a thinner jacket than the ones now. Don't know if that is true.
I use the Accubond in my 325 and they are plenty accurate. But then again, you getting into the premium bullet again.
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Old 09-01-2008, 05:45 PM   #5
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Default RE: Not happy with 270wsm

Nosler BTs suck, they are going to fragment out of the 270 and 270WSM as you have witnessed. Go back to your Sierra's or give the Nosler Partition a try.The Partitionis one of the best, if not the best,Hunting bullet available today. Or if you like the accuracy of the Nosler BT, switch over to the Nosler Accubond. Same great accuracy as the BT without the explosive fragmentation.
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Old 09-01-2008, 07:21 PM   #6
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never had one fragment, no matter how hard I've driven them, hit a shoulder blade at over 3000 fps impact velocity and they will separate, but have always found the jacket and core. That has only happened twice out of over 50 deer and 2 black bear.
you are aware that todays ballistic tip are the exact same make-up (in the med. game weights) as the nosler solid base boat tail.
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Old 09-01-2008, 08:58 PM   #7
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Hey Steve, Go here and check out this ballistic chart. I shows the expansion of different bullets at various velocities. As the chart shows the Nosler BT blew it nuts all the way from 3100fps down to 1400fps. Pretty much a POS as a hunting bullets goes.
http://stevespages.com/jpg/bestbullet.jpg
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Old 09-02-2008, 03:31 AM   #8
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To bad the test was done before nosler revamped the BT's, in the old original BT's the .308 diameter were tender. do some more research and you'll know how to tell the difference.
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Old 09-04-2008, 10:34 AM   #9
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I've pushed the 130 gr BTs with 55 gr of IMR4350 and have taken deer from 10 yds to over 400 yds. And out of dozens of deer, only one required a second finishing shot. Most dropped where they stood. For deer, I never was one for a shoulder shot. I preferred to shoot just behind it, lower 1/3 body. This usually liquifies the lungs and sometimes the heart. Devastating.
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If they dont blow up in some of the flamethrowers RR is shooting they cant be half bad.
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