Most Accurate Load - How much credibility

[statjunk]

The reloading manuals always indicate the most accurate load tested. Do you more experienced folks find this to be the case?

Do you ever find a trend that the particular powder will be the most accruate powder tested across different reloading manuals?

Thanks

Tom

[Pawildman]

ORIGINAL: statjunk

The reloading manuals always indicate the most accurate load tested. Do you more experienced folks find this to be the case?

Do you ever find a trend that the particular powder will be the most accruate powder tested across different reloading manuals?

Thanks

Tom

Personally, I have found that what the manual calls the "accuracy" load very rarely plays out that well for me. Usually totally different.
As far as powder goes, IMR 4350 has given me great results in quite a few guns. Some it was supposed to, and some that it was not.

[HEAD0001]

I have been to two underground testing ranges in my life. One of them was at the Hornady factory. These two factories used barreled actions in vises for their shooting. So basically they were shooting a particular rifle. When they indicate the most accurate load-they are indicating which load is most accurate in their particular rifle. And as you know each rifle is different.

They may be testing their bullets differently now. It has been over 15 years since I have been there. But that is how they used to do it. It could be different now. Tom.

You know, I have starred at nosler and lymans books before and wondered where they got this most accurate. I never see thier results. I am beginning to think they made this up.

[Rifle Loony]

Only a fool doesn't work up in some form or fashion.

There's no substitute for rounds down range...

A load manual is a good general consenous, beyond that, it takes trigger time..........

[redgreen]

I have found that the accuracy loads "sometimes" work for me. Most times, it is not acceptable. What works in their equipment is total disaster in mine. Nothing beats trying different components and a lot of bench time to find the sweet spot with your prefered toys.

[thndrchiken]

ORIGINAL: Rifle Loony

Only a fool doesn't work up in some form or fashion.

There's no substitute for rounds down range...

A load manual is a good general consenous, beyond that, it takes trigger time..........

This from the person who so fervently extolled the virtues of what did you call it..... OCW

Accuracy loads are not always tested by shooting a loaded cartridge downrange, many are shot in a pressure barrel and the load listed produced the most consistant pressures. Take it with a grain of salt, I have had accuracy loads from both Nosler and Sierra that have produced excellent accuracy and others that have not faired so well. I ideally try to go for a load density greater that 80% but that does not always produce the best groups. I decide on bullet then start with the bullet manufacturers data unless I can't get acceptable accuracy then I go to the powder manufacturers data. That being said I also like to use the Lyman manual as an unbias data source for reference.

[bronko22000]

statjunk - For what its worth, here is my method of picking a load for a new cartridge.
First I review several different manuals and compare their 'most accurate' load. I look at posted velocities and amount of powder used. I like to choose a powder that give me good velocity and fills the case to just below the neck at maximum charge. (I don't start loading at max. - this is just for reference.)
I then load 10 rounds starting at 10% below max and work up in increments depending on the max charge. This could be 1/2, 1, or 2 gr increments.
If the first powder does not produce acceptable accuracy I move on to the next selection. Sometimes I found that it isn't the powder at all but the bullet. My Browning 7-08 totally despises Hornady SST bullets yet loves the old Interlock ones in the same 139 gr wt.

[Rifle Loony]

ORIGINAL: thndrchiken

This from the person who so fervently extolled the virtues of what did you call it..... OCW

Accuracy loads are not always tested by shooting a loaded cartridge downrange, many are shot in a pressure barrel and the load listed produced the most consistant pressures. Take it with a grain of salt, I have had accuracy loads from both Nosler and Sierra that have produced excellent accuracy and others that have not faired so well. I ideally try to go for a load density greater that 80% but that does not always produce the best groups. I decide on bullet then start with the bullet manufacturers data unless I can't get acceptable accuracy then I go to the powder manufacturers data. That being said I also like to use the Lyman manual as an unbias data source for reference.

It's obvious, from your comment, that:1.) you don't know what the OCW principlesmean, and, 2.) you don't know the meaning of the OCW principles.....

OCW stands forOptimal Charge Weight. It is a load work up system that tunes your load in a quicker and more efficient manner than what is accepted by the masses asthe norm. OCWload principles staywithin the confines of published load data with regard to minimum and maximum charges.Optimal does not mean Maximum. OCW load principlesdo not address the whims of speed junkies, it often times finds a powder charge that is below anything maximum. OCW load principles address the mechanical and physical properties of that particular rifle barrel with regard to how barrel harmonics affect that particular barrel.

A large factor in successful OCW load work up is an informed choosing of powder and bullet to yield a workable load density and accurate flight of a bullet with adecent BC. As a side benifit of doing things this way the load will likely be extremelytolerant of Pressure Variences....somethingheld in high regard by the fans of "extreme powders".

In my opinion it works betterand more economically that the standard "add a half grain and see what it'll do" mantra........

[Scott Gags]

The reloading manuals always indicate the most accurate load tested.

Many of the manual are referring to the deviation in velocity not actually accuracy. They will highlight loads have the tightest velocity spread as having best accuracy potential.