Once saved always saved?

[Goose 11]

How can a Christian believe in this idea of never being able to be lost? If you agree that the scriptures are inspired by God, (meaning He knew these folks were "saved" at one point) how do you explain these Biblical examples of Christians who fell from grace?

Demas - 2 Timothy 4:10
Hymenaeus & Alexander - 1 Timothy 1:18-20
Some Galatians - Galatians 5:4-7
Simon the sorcerer - Acts 8:9-24

One CAN lose their salvation. Read this:
James 5:19-20 My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.

Very clear a Christian CAN lose their salvation.

[Moose75]

Once saved always saved?

Nope

[Goose 11]

Thanks Moose, I knew we would agree. You can be kinda rude at times but I think you just want to do what you understand is right! Thank you and keep on posting those great thought provoking posts! I'd love to hear what any of the others think also.
Trae

[ewolf]

Here we go again

[Snooky]

We may differ on some things but not here.

[ewolf]

Demas. This is discribed in Matt. 13:20,21
Hymenaeus and Alexander They were never Baptised! Therefore according to you they were obviously not saved. It simply says they had faith. I'm playing by your rules.
Some Galatians - They tried to live by the Law. We need grace for a reason. Can you be saved through the law?
Simon 8:21 ... for your heart is not right in the sight of God. So did his heart change that fast? He was trying to use the gospel to make money. God would obviously be able to see this. He knows what is in our hearts.

I will post some scripture later.

[LBR]

Hymenaeus and Alexander They were never Baptised! Therefore according to you they were obviously not saved. It simply says they had faith. I'm playing by your rules.

Now isn't that convenient! [8D]

Demas. This is discribed in Matt. 13:20,21

Actually you just made the point stronger. This type of person hears the word, and receives it, but doesn't presevere.

Some Galatians - They tried to live by the Law.

According to Galatians 1:6, you are incorrect. Paul said that they were removed from him that called them into the grace of Christ. They were in the grace of Christ. They were removed from him that called them.

Chad

[Moose75]

ewolf, so if a man has been a faithful member and christian and finds his wife with another man after 30 years and he kills them both he will go to heaven?

[ewolf]

ORIGINAL: Moose75

ewolf, so if a man has been a faithful member and christian and finds his wife with another man after 30 years and he kills them both he will go to heaven?

If he repents and makes it right with God. YES. My faith is in Jesus Christ. It's not in myself.

[Moose75]

right if he repents from the sin without repenting he has fallen from grace

so no you are not once saved always saved.