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Old 04-21-2011, 09:24 AM   #1
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Default Sin of ignorance?

We hear this phrase used often, but is it scriptural? When and at what point does God input sin, or put it on ones account. God once winked at ignorance, but now commandeth all men everywhere to repent. But what is God saying? Repent of what?
Acts 3:17 Peter & John rebuking then for killing The Lord Jesus says: I wot that through ignorance ye did it. V:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted. Paul said, "I had not known sin except the law had said, thou shalt not". We often judge others and condemn ourselves, but is it a fair and biblical judgement? The scripture say, but when does God imput the condemnation of sin upon a man? Compare and harmonize these 2 scriptures;
1 John 3:4 For sin is the transgression of the law. Compare with James 4:17, To him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
1st Tim. 2:4 Who would have all men to be saved, and come unto the knowledge of the truth. Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfullu after that we haved received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sin.
To "know", to have "knowledge", means to have the understanding of. All have heard words spoken in a foreign language and we can pronounce the word heard, yet we do not have the knowledge to use the word, and don't know or understand the meaning of it. Doesn't this happen often to men when seeking the things of God? As a babe in Christ, does one understand all that is contained in the bible? Do we read it once and have a perfect knowledge of all that we read? Does one ever comprehend everything about the ways of God? Wouldn't it be true that if total knowledge is required, all would miss the mark through the "sins of ignorance". IMO one must have knowledge before he has sin imputed unto him. To him that "knoweth" to do good and doeth it not, to him it is sin. IMO it isn't so much the act, as it is the spirit of rebellion that is the sin. Even us humans do not hold the mentally handicapped accountable, isn't God much more merciful than men?
When do you think that sin becomes exceedingly sinful?
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:24 PM   #2
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  • John 17:3

    3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

You have to "KNOW" to have eternal life.
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Old 04-23-2011, 07:49 AM   #3
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You have to "KNOW" to have eternal life.

In light of John 17:3, what do we gather from Titus 2: 11-15? It reads v11 For the Grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared unto all men, V12 Teaching us that denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberily, righteously, and godly, in this present world: v13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ; v14 who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. v15 These things speak, and exort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man dispise thee.

Has the Grace of God stripped away the arguement of ignorance? Or is Grace a teacher to lead us on unto deeper depths of the knowledge of God, and greater revelation of his marvelous light?
IMO we have all, (myself included) been very judgemental of the brethern, but sadly our judgement has been based soley upon our personal understanding and revelation and not upon the word of God. Something that we all know far too little about. Isn't our understanding based upon the "measure of the gift of Grace given us"?
Is sin based upon ignorance, or upon the knowledge to do good?
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Old 04-24-2011, 07:05 AM   #4
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IMO we need to connect a couple of more scriptures that have to do with the state of ignorance.
1 Thes 4:13 + 1 Cor 10:1 + 1 Cor 12:1 + II Peter 3:8, "I would not have you to be ignorant".
II Peter 3:5 "For of this they are willingly ignorant of".
We are often rebuked, reproved, and condemned as trouble makers without the Spirit of Christ, because we refuse to agree with that which we do not believe. Iron sharpeneth iron. When we are content to drift along with the multitudes of the lukewarm and remain silent rather that to express our views, are we not satified to risk being found among the "willingly ignorant"?
How much growth and increased knowledge occur without some dialog, discussion, and even disagreement, to cause us to give ourselver over to a study of the word?
Rather than becoming angry, shouldn't we rather take advantage of the opportunity to dig deeper into the scriptures to see if these things be so?
Ignorance is not bliss, it is a dangerous condition for the spiritual to be in.
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Old 04-24-2011, 07:46 AM   #5
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I believe that every Christians in prayer should ask the Holy Spirit to reveal to us those things that are displeasing to God in order that we don’t have ignorance of sin.
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Old 04-24-2011, 03:13 PM   #6
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Just thinking out loud here. Could the sin of ignorance be any sin in which one chooses to ignore and remain willingly ignorant of? Isn't that thought in keeping with the scripture which says that if one sins willfully after he has come to the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sin? Speaking there about rejecting the sacrifice of Christ, there is no other sacrifice left.
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Old 04-24-2011, 05:31 PM   #7
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sin of ignorance seams like the wrong words to be using
the Bible speaks of the sin of omission. The Christian disciple James wrote: “If one knows how to do what is right and yet does not do it, it is a sin for him.” (James 4:17) Rather than simply instructing Christians not to do bad to others, Jesus Christ offered this counsel: “All things . . . that you want men to do to you, you also must likewise do to them.”—Matthew 7:12.
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I believe that every Christians in prayer should ask the Holy Spirit to reveal to us those things that are displeasing to God in order that we don’t have ignorance of sin.
There you go. ...

And for guys like me not to ignore what we do know.
I would think that is the main message. Seems simple?
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There you go. ...

And for guys like me not to ignore what we do know.
I would think that is the main message. Seems simple?


Whats going on here? We aren't supposed to agree.
IMO we could sum it up as the "simplicity of the Gospel". Simply
obey God in all that we know to do.
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There you go. ...

And for guys like me not to ignore what we do know.
I would think that is the main message. Seems simple?


Whats going on here? We aren't supposed to agree.
IMO we could sum it up as the "simplicity of the Gospel". Simply
obey God in all that we know to do.
I just lost a whole post..must have been a lie.

being as we seem to be agreeing maybe I should review my stance.
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