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Old 02-26-2011, 07:12 AM   #1
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Default A question concerning a bodily ressurection

John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three daysI will raise it up. V20 Then said the Jews, forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? V21 But he spake of the Temple of his body. V22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had spoken.
Just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whales belley, so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Some declare that the body of Jesus didn't experience a "bodily" resurrection. If this was so, what happened unto the fleshly temple in which He dwelt? Didn't God say that He wouldn't suffer his body to see corruption?
Jesus said that He, (Jesus himself) would raise the temple of his flesh. Wouldn't this require that Jesus be God himself? Who but God alone raises the dead?
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Old 02-26-2011, 07:31 AM   #2
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Well the Word says it was the Holy Spirit who resurrected his body ??

And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit, who lives in you; ROM 8
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And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit, who lives in you; ROM 8

KB, Just to be sure we are both reading this scripture the same way, Who is the one refered to as "him", if the Spirit of HIM who raised Jesus from the dead. Doesn't this say that HE raised Jesus? and if the Spirit of this one called "him" is living in you, "HE" will also give you life through his Spirit?
Did it really say that The Spirit raised Jesus?
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Old 02-26-2011, 12:04 PM   #4
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John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three daysI will raise it up. V20 Then said the Jews, forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? V21 But he spake of the Temple of his body. V22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had spoken.
Just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whales belley, so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Some declare that the body of Jesus didn't experience a "bodily" resurrection. If this was so, what happened unto the fleshly temple in which He dwelt? Didn't God say that He wouldn't suffer his body to see corruption?
Jesus said that He, (Jesus himself) would raise the temple of his flesh. Wouldn't this require that Jesus be God himself? Who but God alone raises the dead?
you sir are speeking twisted things, only the power of jehovah can put life back into a dead body .
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only the power of jehovah can put life back into a dead body .

I thought that was what Jesus was saying myself. At least you & I agree on what Jesus said.
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Old 02-26-2011, 01:05 PM   #6
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do you under stand Jesus was dead
Ecclesiastes
9:5 For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all,.......
that being the case Jesus could not resurrect him self it took Jehovah to do that
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Old 02-26-2011, 03:21 PM   #7
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that being the case Jesus could not resurrect him self it took Jehovah to do that

Yep, That is what Jesus said, You do believe Jesus don't you? Remember, Jehovah said, "This is my beloved Son, HEAR YE HIM". If you don't believe Jesus words, you surely believe the command of Jehovah to hear what Jesus said don't you?
JW doctrine, little god, (Jesus says it), but Jesus isn't really God so it doesn't matter what Jesus says, its what big God (JW doctrine) says, So Big God commands us to hear what little god has said. If you refuse to hear Jesus, will you also reject what Jehovah has plainly said?
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Old 02-27-2011, 02:21 AM   #8
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oh i am very aware of the things the most high has said as well the son. Jesus never contradicts the father he is in complete subjection to the father, and does all the things that his god the most high asks of him, all what Jesus did was for the glory of the father.

are you now going to tell us some thing different than that, honestly i would not be surprised if you do .after all you have said the one IS the other........and you call it oneness ? what i know for fact is that Jesus is in agreement with Jehovah ,they are two separate beings with Jesus doing all that he can to glorify his Father and God
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Now that you have muddied the waters without giving any answer, do you care to offer an explanation for the apparent contridictions in the JW doctrine?
Did Jesus tell a lie? Or is it a truth that Jehovah was in Christ? Did Jesus lie again when He declared, "I and my Father are One" and whan he said "He that hath seen Me HATH seen The Father"? Did Paul Lie when he said that Jesus was the expressed image of The Invisible God? Did Jehovah's Holy Word declares The fullness of the Godhead was in Jesus, was it the truth or not? I'm easy to convience, all you have to do is present the scripture that declares that God is not One, but rather Two or Three Gods and I will agree and except your doctrine. Even with the NW Translation you have no scripture or you would have offered them long ago. Do you have anything to present beside your unscriptural teachings derived from Russell, Bourbon, Miller, Rutherford, Knox, ect. The orgin and trail left by the WatchTower cannot be denied as they were too meticulus in their printing of every new idea, every prophecy that failed, ect. studies of the scriptures that were required in addition to the Bible in order to be saved and not pass into darkness.
Give us something to think about for a change.
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:52 AM   #10
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tell me please how you explain away the use of the phrase " be one " as in the Scripture at
(King James Bible) John 17:21,22
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, [art] in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one


my self i know it means to be in agreement, acting as one even as a teem acts as to one great goal .
you how ever paint the picture of many people smashed together in one big mass,......... we know thats not true, there for we have to know that when Jesus said he was one with the father it meant he was in agreement with God and that God approved of what Jesus was doing.
please remember, Jesus came to do the will of his father, not his own will .

so please what is your excuse for not knowing what "being one" means ?
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