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Old 09-18-2010, 09:25 PM   #71
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are you really saying the word Christ means some thing different than the word Messiah
Umm, no. I was referring to you. You seem to be the intelligent one.

It is GOD's design that you can not comprehend the very idea that GOD can come here in the flesh and at the same time refer to himself (in the flesh) as the Son of GOD.
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Old 09-19-2010, 07:08 AM   #72
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umm, no. I was referring to you. You seem to be the intelligent one.

It is god's design that you can not comprehend the very idea that god can come here in the flesh and at the same time refer to himself (in the flesh) as the son of god.
only those who the holy spirit reveals these things can understand that>
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Old 09-19-2010, 08:20 AM   #73
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Umm, no. I was referring to you. You seem to be the intelligent one.

It is GOD's design that you can not comprehend the very idea that GOD can come here in the flesh and at the same time refer to himself (in the flesh) as the Son of GOD.
please for give , ............................i tend to ignore insults
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Old 09-19-2010, 08:57 AM   #74
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please for give , ............................i tend to ignore insults
Cat,

I wasn't trying to insult your intelligence and if I did, I'm sorry.

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Old 09-19-2010, 09:08 AM   #75
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only those who the holy spirit reveals these things can understand that>
Exodus 3:14
God said to Moses, "I am who I am . This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.' "

1 Corinthians 1:21
21For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe.

Matthew 16
12Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

13When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?

14And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.

15He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

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Old 09-19-2010, 10:42 AM   #76
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Exodus 3:14
God said to Moses, "I am who I am . This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.' "

1 Corinthians 1:21
21For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe.

Matthew 16
12Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

13When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?

14And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.

15He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
and what does ''I am who I am'' mean to you ?
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:30 PM   #77
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only those who the holy spirit reveals these things can understand that>
no the problem is you are blind
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The reason why they were not able to believe is that again Isaiah said: 40 “He has blinded their eyes and he has made their hearts hard, that they should not see with their eyes and get the thought with their hearts and turn around and I should heal them.” 41 Isaiah said these things because he saw his glory, and he spoke about him. 42 All the same, many even of the rulers actually put faith in him, but because of the Pharisees they would not confess [him], in order not to be expelled from the synagogue; 43 for they loved the glory of men more than even the glory of God.
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However, Jesus cried out and said: “He that puts faith in me puts faith, not in me [only], but in him [also] that sent me; 45 and he that beholds me beholds [also] him that sent me. 46 I have come as a light into the world, in order that everyone putting faith in me may not remain in the darkness. 47 But if anyone hears my sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I came, not to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 He that disregards me and does not receive my sayings has one to judge him. The word that I have spoken is what will judge him in the last day; 49 because I have not spoken out of my own impulse, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to tell and what to speak. 50 Also, I know that his commandment means everlasting life. Therefore the things I speak, just as the Father has told me [them], so I speak [them].”



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Old 09-24-2010, 08:54 PM   #78
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The plan of salvation has been so misconstrued by human nature that only God can bring back order. Better get ready people your whitewash is going to get tested!

Jer 9:1 KJV - Oh that my head were waters, and mine eyes a fountain of tears, that I might weep day and night for the slain of the daughter of my people!
Jer 9:2 KJV - Oh that I had in the wilderness a lodging place of wayfaring men; that I might leave my people, and go from them! for they [be] all adulterers, an assembly of treacherous men.
Jer 9:3 KJV - And they bend their tongues [like] their bow [for] lies: but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth; for they proceed from evil to evil, and they know not me, saith the LORD.
Jer 9:4 KJV - Take ye heed every one of his neighbour, and trust ye not in any brother: for every brother will utterly supplant, and every neighbour will walk with slanders.
Jer 9:5 KJV - And they will deceive every one his neighbour, and will not speak the truth: they have taught their tongue to speak lies, [and] weary themselves to commit iniquity.
Jer 9:6 KJV - Thine habitation [is] in the midst of deceit; through deceit they refuse to know me, saith the LORD.
Jer 9:7 KJV - Therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, I will melt them, and try them; for how shall I do for the daughter of my people?
Jer 9:8 KJV - Their tongue [is as] an arrow shot out; it speaketh deceit: [one] speaketh peaceably to his neighbour with his mouth, but in heart he layeth his wait.
Jer 9:9 KJV - Shall I not visit them for these [things]? saith the LORD: shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?
Jer 9:10 KJV - For the mountains will I take up a weeping and wailing, and for the habitations of the wilderness a lamentation, because they are burned up, so that none can pass through [them]; neither can [men] hear the voice of the cattle; both the fowl of the heavens and the beast are fled; they are gone.
Jer 9:11 KJV - And I will make Jerusalem heaps, [and] a den of dragons; and I will make the cities of Judah desolate, without an inhabitant.
Jer 9:12 KJV - Who [is] the wise man, that may understand this? and [who is he] to whom the mouth of the LORD hath spoken, that he may declare it, for what the land perisheth [and] is burned up like a wilderness, that none passeth through?
Jer 9:13 KJV - And the LORD saith, Because they have forsaken my law which I set before them, and have not obeyed my voice, neither walked therein;
Jer 9:14 KJV - But have walked after the imagination of their own heart, and after Baalim, which their fathers taught them:
Jer 9:15 KJV - Therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will feed them, [even] this people, with wormwood, and give them water of gall to drink.
Jer 9:16 KJV - I will scatter them also among the heathen, whom neither they nor their fathers have known: and I will send a sword after them, till I have consumed them.
Jer 9:17 KJV - Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Consider ye, and call for the mourning women, that they may come; and send for cunning [women], that they may come:
Jer 9:18 KJV - And let them make haste, and take up a wailing for us, that our eyes may run down with tears, and our eyelids gush out with waters.
Jer 9:19 KJV - For a voice of wailing is heard out of Zion, How are we spoiled! we are greatly confounded, because we have forsaken the land, because our dwellings have cast [us] out.
Jer 9:20 KJV - Yet hear the word of the LORD, O ye women, and let your ear receive the word of his mouth, and teach your daughters wailing, and every one her neighbour lamentation.
Jer 9:21 KJV - For death is come up into our windows, [and] is entered into our palaces, to cut off the children from without, [and] the young men from the streets.
Jer 9:22 KJV - Speak, Thus saith the LORD, Even the carcases of men shall fall as dung upon the open field, and as the handful after the harvestman, and none shall gather [them].
Jer 9:23 KJV - Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise [man] glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty [man] glory in his might, let not the rich [man] glory in his riches:
Jer 9:24 KJV - But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I [am] the LORD which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these [things] I delight, saith the LORD.
Jer 9:25 KJV - Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will punish all [them which are] circumcised with the uncircumcised;
Jer 9:26 KJV - Egypt, and Judah, and Edom, and the children of Ammon, and Moab, and all [that are] in the utmost corners, that dwell in the wilderness: for all [these] nations [are] uncircumcised, and all the house of Israel [are] uncircumcised in the heart.
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Jer 9:23 KJV - Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise [man] glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty [man] glory in his might, let not the rich [man] glory in his riches:
Jer 9:24 KJV - But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I [am] the LORD


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Old 09-25-2010, 02:43 PM   #80
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The plan of salvation has been so misconstrued by human nature that only God can bring back order. Better get ready people your whitewash is going to get tested!

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yep you can say that again ,did you know there are people that believe Jesus is GOD , and there are people that believe in some thing called a Trinity even people that say they are going to heaven .its ludicrous.

people theses thing do not come from the bible ,but from mythology
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