You seem to only want to save yourself. No matter how many good works that you do you cannot save yourself.
Where did you come up with that? I tell you do not sin and change for God and I am wanting to save myself! Not hardly! You do have to get yourself right before you can help others! Then you will be working. Not doing your own works but works that God has you doing.
Mat 7:5 KJV - Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
Eph 2:10 KJV - For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
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Eph 2:10 KJV - For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Few have came to the truth of this passage. Neither have they excepted the words of God which declare that one is judged by the things written in the books, (66 books of the Bible), Judged according to their works, whether they be good or evil.
One is called to be a light unto the world. Jesus said to "let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Faith without works is dead, being alone. Not works preceeding salvation, but works following salvation.
But to say that everything is lies, cant stand by your side on that one brother. most yes, everything, thats something for Him to decide.
Brethern, something I have learned over the 45+ years that I have been a searcher of truth is that one of the greatest dangers we must guard against, comes from within--Thinking that we know more than we really do. Having an open mind, willing to listen, reason, and learn is vital to Christian growth. I guarantee that in 10 more years, all will look back and see that your eyes have been opened to more truth. You will have received deeper revelations. Your knowledge of the spiritual things will have grown. If this isn't true, you will have become spiritually dead.
I certainly don't have perfect knowledge in all things concerning God, but I do know more than I did 45 years ago. I feel that I was saved back then, just as I feel that I am saved now. However if I reverted back to the person I was 45 years ago, I would now be lost. God will judge us all for the person we are when he comes in judgement, not by the person that we used to be. Let us go on unto perfection.
Are you trying to say that I came off as knowing everything? sorry if I did, my bad.
There is a way to know if you are off the milk! It tells us in the Word! First you have to know who Jesus is. He is the cornerstone of our foundation. Then we have this! Hbr 5:12 KJV - For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which [be] the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
This tells us there is a starting point of being a Christian and that you can get messed up along the way! Hbr 5:13 KJV - For every one that useth milk [is] unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
If you are on the milk you really dont know that much of the truth of the Word. Hbr 5:14 KJV - But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, [even] those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
There is a requirnment for putting aside the milk and eathing on the meat of the Word. Where do we find this?In the very next verse! Hbr 6:1 KJV - Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Hbr 6:2 KJV - Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
There you have 7 things you must do to advance to the meat of the Word. First being knowing who Jesus is. If you are hung up that Jesus is God you are going to be starting over time and time again. The next step is not laying again the foundaiton of repentance from dead works. What does this mean? It means you have to stop sinning! Another hang up for most. The majority of the steps are taught by the church but are not taught in truth! You are correct in saying that it is a process. It takes time and its not easy. Thats why you take the narrow path!
Great scripture references, and corect me if Im wrong but somewhere in a previous posts you think you could tell if Im on milk or meat? You got to give me a little help on that. maybe I missed something. but everything you said above amen.
Jesus, Baptisms, Communion, grace, how to pray in Jesus name, faith, sin, laying on of hands, judgment, resurrection, love for God, love for your neighbor, commands of God, salvation, Israel. Just to name a few!
I really dont want to go through all your post to try and figure out what your belief is so please elaborate some. Like Jesus, Baptism, Faith, Laying on of hands, love for God, salvation.
Where did you come up with that? I tell you do not sin and change for God and I am wanting to save myself! Not hardly! You do have to get yourself right before you can help others! Then you will be working. Not doing your own works but works that God has you doing.
Mat 7:5 KJV - Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
Eph 2:10 KJV - For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
I really dont want to go through all your post to try and figure out what your belief is so please elaborate some. Like Jesus, Baptism, Faith, Laying on of hands, love for God, salvation.
Good post. And don't worry, you're doing just fine.
One of the Pharisees tested Jesus with a question, "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" (Matthew 22:36 NIV). Jesus replied, " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments" (Matthew 22:37-40 NIV).
In another place Jesus specifically warned of the danger: "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean" (Matthew 23:25-26 NIV).
Eph 2:10 KJV - For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Few have came to the truth of this passage. Neither have they excepted the words of God which declare that one is judged by the things written in the books, (66 books of the Bible), Judged according to their works, whether they be good or evil.
One is called to be a light unto the world. Jesus said to "let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Faith without works is dead, being alone. Not works preceeding salvation, but works following salvation.
What then does Jesus say? "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind" (Matthew 22:37 NIV). Heart and soul and mind are not three distinct small pieces of ourselves that we may offer. They all point to what we really are. The Bible indicates that our heart is central: "The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks" (Luke 6:45 NIV). Everything we are and have, beginning with our inmost commitments and all our thoughts, we must devote to loving, adoring, and serving God.
Not contesting you Snook, just elaborating even further strong brother.
"How can I measure up to a standard that asks for perfect motivations as well as full outward obedience? "
You and I do not measure up. But there is One who does. We read in First John, "In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins" (1 John 4:10 NASB).
Jesus loved us perfectly and gave himself for us (Galatians 2:20). He saved us when none of us could save ourselves (Romans 5:6-10). And now, when we put our trust in him, we are united to him, and we are transformed so that we can imitate the pattern of his love: "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another" (John 13:34-35 RSV). Through Jesus Christ we receive not only understanding of God's will, but power and motivation to serve Him. In receiving His love, we can, in turn, love others.
