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Old 07-29-2010, 04:47 AM   #1
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I was re-editing my book "The Alpha & The Omega, A Study of Genesis, Revelation and Christianity", and read this aticle, which I thought I'd share with you. It was originally writen for this sofum when I was the moderator here.

Some of you old dogs may remeber it. I've also got several posts from members here, which make for excellent Christain reading, which I will post later.

It is even more tru now, than it was 4 years ago., when we have Paris Hilton, Lindsey Lohan, Snoop Dog, Michael Vik, Mel Gibson (which is too bad, he did a great thing with the Pasion. I honestly think he has a mental illness, and we should pray for him.)

Is the USA becoming a Godless nation?
When the early forefathers of this great country said, "In God we trust" they probably meant the Holy Trinity, because they were primarily Christians. There was no "Jesus is not one in being with the Father" church or movement around. And the dominant religion of the European immigrants was Christianity. But, now we have residents and immigrants who are not Christian. We have Buddhists, Moslems, Confucianists, Shintoists, Native American Shamanists, Druids, etc. We can no longer say that the "God of our fathers" is the one God that many Americans currently put their trust in.
Is the United States becoming a godless nation? If by the term "God" we mean the Holy Trinity, the answer might be yes. If godless means "moral decay" then we must ask ourselves what moral decay is. If you are a Christian it might be the acceptance of deceiving stockholders by company executives who pocket large sums of money for personal use. It might be the acceptance of poverty, homeless people, and lack of medical care for all Americans. It might be simply looking the other way when someone causes harm to another person, or steals, lies or cheats.
It might be the acceptance of a vocal minority who don't want any mention of God in our court systems, on public property, in schools, in the Pledge of Allegiance, in the Constitution or Declaration of Independence; or on privately owned but publicly used web sites. It might be not standing up for the Christian God you believe in. It might be the acceptance of "political/religious correctness" so no one is offended.
It might be the acceptance of homosexuality, and same sex marriage. It might be the acceptance of some of the Christian church hierarchy being openly homosexual. It might be churches hiding or denying child abuse by church personnel. It might be the growing acceptance of the beliefs and practices of non-Christian religions.
As time goes on we humans seem to allow more of this to go on in our lives, and around us, without saying anything or doing anything about it. We are beginning to accept what Christians, and other religions, considered unacceptable behavior a few years ago. Where will it end?
Do we as a nation and people accept religions, denomination, sects or religious-political groups that allow, condone or use terrorism, to promote their religious beliefs in our nation?
Are we becoming a godless nation? Some would say yes, some no. We are certainly becoming a multi-god nation. Are we becoming a nation of people who may no longer accept Yahweh as their only God? Certainly. Are we becoming a nation of some people who do not believe in any God? Certainly.
Will becoming a godless or multi-god nation affect our people? Certainly. Will it affect our nation? Certainly. Will it lead to moral decay? In the eyes of many Christians it already has. Will moral decay lead to the ruin of our nation? If history is any evidence - Certainly.
Can we do anything about the diversifying religious makeup of the US? Not if we are a nation that espouses religious freedom, as opposed to denominational freedom. (I'm not suggesting we become a one-religion nation, but many other countries are.) Can we do anything about our downward spiraling moral decay? Probably not, but we Christians can pray to Yahweh that we weather the storm. And we can teach and demand better moral standards, for ourselves, our children, and our business and political leaders.
Has this all been predicted? Yes, in the Book of revelation. Is this nation ripe for multi-religion acceptance? Yes. Is the world ripe for multi-religion acceptance? More so than ever. Is the world ripe for either an all-encompassing political or multi-religious leader? Yes. Is the world ripe for a multi- or uni- political world leader? Yes.
Will we ever have world peace, and will all mankind be completely moral? If the Bible is correct, then we will only have world peace after the Battle of Gog and Magog, and the world will be completely moral only after that battle, which is a symbolic thousand years after the Second Coming of Jesus.
And, if the Bible is correct, before all of that, the world is headed for moral decay, war, plagues, pollution and destruction; and the emergence of a world leader, who will deceive much of mankind. And there will be another battle, before Yahweh's reign on earth, at the Second coming of Jesus, during the battle between good and evil, between Jesus the Christ and Satan the Anti-Christ; the Battle of Armageddon.
I personally believe that the Bible is true, and that all of this will happen. If I am right some people might want to reassess their lives and their beliefs.
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Old 07-29-2010, 05:42 AM   #2
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did wake up in church,,i thought this was a hunting site,,,god is nice...in church
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god is nice...in church

He hadn't seen you for some time, thought he better come and check on you.
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Can we do anything about the diversifying religious makeup of the US? Not if we are a nation that espouses religious freedom, as opposed to denominational freedom. (I'm not suggesting we become a one-religion nation, but many other countries are.)
Sounds like a dictatorship to me... Just sayin.....
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I am from Canada but am presently on a year exchange down in Australia.

Australian Government is a little different that US style.

People vote for persons in their "riding" who most often belong to one of the 4 (I think) political parties. The party with the most votes (or a coalition of parties who have a majority and agree to rule together) forms the government.

The leader of that party (elected as such by the party and has to be elected in their riding) becomes the Prime Minister (elected Head of state)

Recently the ruling party was going down in the polls and some of the "power brokers?"in the party thought it was the fault of their leader so they forced him out and a woman took over as the leader of the party and therefore the Prime Minister and elected heat of state.

She said she would not move into the official P.M.s residence till she wins an election. But her "common-law partner" has moved in. She has come out in an interview and said she is for abortion and does not believe in God.

An election is called for Aug. 21.

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Old 07-30-2010, 01:09 AM   #7
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did wake up in church,,i thought this was a hunting site,,,god is nice...in church
Uh you are n the Religion forum. That is what we talk about here, since it was started when I had my own board here, and talked a lot about Christianity. And then I was made moderator of the first religin forum.

If you don' t want to talk religion, wy ae you in the religion forum. If you do not wnat to talk about religion just go to the hunting forums . Problem solved.

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Old 07-30-2010, 01:48 AM   #8
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I definately lean towards the No camp. The current times and situations are hard & difficult for many, but I have a hard time seeing that these tribulations are substantially different than those experienced (suffered?) by our fore-fathers.

I'll give you that it may sound harsh. Beliefs then, were based on what had happened. The world didn't end on Jan 1st 1000, 1900, 2000 or even 2010.

So far, the record of what has happened lays solidly in the No camp. Does this totally discount spiritually based pre-supposition ? Not at all.

When and if it happens, by the time it becomes evident, then there won't be any doubt. If you have a strong and profound belief in God, then the hope that he will find a way won't be a shock.

Are We (the US) becoming a godless nation? No. Most of the founding Fathers had a strong belief in a God (assumedly Christian) but were extremely doubtful about organized religion.

We are not likely to become any more godless, than we are to become any more godful (I doubt this is a real word, but I hope you get my meaning).
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Old 07-30-2010, 04:05 AM   #9
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Just a couple of historical corrections trmichels.

Many of the Pilgrims were Puritans but it is unlikely any of the founders of this country were. Puritanism had its hey day in the 16th and 17th centuries. By the 18th century they had all but died out.

"In God we trust" was not a slogan of the founders. It did not become a slogan of the U.S. government until 1956. It first appeared on our coins in 1864. It didn't appear on any important document produced by the founders.

Also, not all the founders meant the holy trinity when they referred to God. Although nearly all were Christians some were Unitarian which was recognized as an official Christian religion in the 1700's colonial america. Unitarians, of course, do not believe in the trinity doctrine. John Adams was a Unitarian. Unitarianism goes back much further, at least into the 1600's.

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Old 07-30-2010, 08:03 AM   #10
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I think it's very easy to see that God is being suppressed. Like the one poster above...they believe it may be OK in it's place but anything outside of that and God should never be mentioned. You see this in the business world, in the general public and by government.
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