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Old 07-29-2010, 06:07 PM   #71
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Luk 4:4
And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Jhn 4:32But he said to them, "I have food to eat that you know nothing about."
Jhn 6:27
Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. On him God the Father has placed his seal of approval."
Jhn 4:34
"My food," said Jesus, "is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work.
Jhn 6:55
For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.
1Cr 3:2
I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready.
1Cr 10:3They all ate the same spiritual food1Cr 10:4and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.Hbr
Jhn 6:53Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.
Jhn 6:54Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
Jhn 6:55For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.
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But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.

Jesus is the word of God. If you study it and obey it you are feeding on spiritual food!If you read and and dont do what it says or change the meaning you are feeding at the table of demons!

1Cr 10:21You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord's table and the table of demons.

This had ought to also enlighten you on communion! It has nothing to do with grape juice and bread! That is why when people dont examine themselves before reading the word of God they run into problems!

1Cr 11:28A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup.
1Cr 11:29For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself.1Cr 11:30That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep.1Cr 11:31But if we judged ourselves, we would not come under judgment.
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Old 07-29-2010, 06:11 PM   #72
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Ray.."Salvation is a process! Yes he was not right in what he did but it did not mean he was a man walking accourding to the flesh."

Peter was walking in the flesh at that moment Ray..He was giving a choice in his mind at that moment..and because of fear of man{ The Jews} he slipped up..Just like when Jesus told Peter "Get behind me Satan." Was Peter still saved..ABSOLUTELY..Sanctification is a growing process. "He must increase and we must decrease." I love it that the Word shows the short comings of Paul, Peter , David etc..but the end result..God is still the author and finisher of thier salvation.

Here;s the deal..Jesus knew Peter very well ..perfectly [ -; and said "Satan has desired to sift you as wheat , BUT I have prayed for you ." so salvation is of Jesus..He has us..we don't have him.
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Old 07-29-2010, 09:08 PM   #73
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Again, this board is for discussion, not preaching any individuals given beliefs.
Technically, this board is to: "Discuss how your religious views affect your hunting lifestyle."

Obviously that rule has never been strictly enforced.

What I meant was, rather than just jump in and copy and paste a sermon, there should be some attempt at discussion. I'm sure there are boards for sermons, but this isn't one of them. I think if we could get more into discussing, the mood would lighten up a bit.

Ray, Peter was hand-picked and personally taught by Christ Himself...yet he (Peter) was still a man, and still fallible. How could any one of us then be infalliable?

Simple answer, we cannot. To quote a bumper sticker: "Christians aren't perfect, just forgiven".
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Ray, Peter was hand-picked and personally taught by Christ Himself...yet he (Peter) was still a man, and still fallible. How could any one of us then be infalliable?

Simple answer, we cannot. To quote a bumper sticker: "Christians aren't perfect, just forgiven".

Amen, Chad. We can still be Christians even though we have different understandings about what we believe the Bible says sometimes. Only the prideful and arrogant insist that all must see it their way....that their view is always the right view. There is plenty of room for honest disagreement about some matters. To me, the Bible is my guide book in life much less than my rule book. I believe that God will will set us all straight about some things when we get to heaven.....that every one of us will have things we understood incorrectly.

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For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
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Just to clarify, I'm not one that thinks that as long as you believe something you are o.k. (I don't think Mr. C. does either), but I don't think you have to believe exactly like I do to get to heaven.
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Only the prideful and arrogant insist that all must see it their way....that their view is always the right view. There is plenty of room for honest disagreement about some matters. To me, the Bible is my guide book in life much less than my rule book. I believe that God will will set us all straight about some things when we get to heaven.....that every one of us will have things we understood incorrectly.


Rich; I am glad to see someone coming around to the doctrine that I have been setting forth here for quite some time. To him that KNOWETH to do good, and doeth it not (what he knows he should do) to him it is sin. Every man will be judged by that which God has revealed unto him throught the word and The Spirit.
I wish someone would search the archives and tell me how many times I have said that, and then post the rebuke I received because Gods word demanded obedience, even if it wasnt understood. I am watching to see if you are upbraided also.
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Only the prideful and arrogant insist that all must see it their way....that their view is always the right view. There is plenty of room for honest disagreement about some matters. To me, the Bible is my guide book in life much less than my rule book. I believe that God will will set us all straight about some things when we get to heaven.....that every one of us will have things we understood incorrectly.


Rich; I am glad to see someone coming around to the doctrine that I have been setting forth here for quite some time. To him that KNOWETH to do good, and doeth it not (what he knows he should do) to him it is sin. Every man will be judged by that which God has revealed unto him throught the word and The Spirit.
I wish someone would search the archives and tell me how many times I have said that, and then post the rebuke I received because Gods word demanded obedience, even if it wasnt understood. I am watching to see if you are upbraided also.
history of scripture seams to indicate that God expects to be honored in a certain way and not in any way shap or form that you come up with .
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...and then post the rebuke I received because Gods word demanded obedience, even if it wasnt understood.
I'll just say that was not the case, the offer is still open to copy and paste evidence, and I'll leave it at that.
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2Ti 4:3For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
sound hygiainō
1) to be sound, to be well, to be in good health
2) metaph.
a) of Christians whose opinions are free from any mixture of error
b) of one who keeps the graces and is strong

Suit yourself and live in mixed doctrine!Wait on God to clear it all up for you in the end. I guarntee you he will!

Tts 1:9He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.

There is one correct way and those who dont teach it properly are to be refuted!

Tts 1:10For there are many rebellious people, mere talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision group.
Tts 2:1You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.

Show me where I am wrong and that it is ok to have many different interpretations of the Word!

Ponder on this.
Gal 1:6I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel-
Gal 1:7which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!

One correct way taught by Paul and the apostles. And we have the ability to find that way!

1Cr 2:10but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.
1Cr 2:11For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
1Cr 2:12We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us.
1Cr 2:13This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.
1Cr 2:14The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
So tell me Im foolish and prideful because I believe there is one proper way the Gospel is to be taught and that through the spirit we can fully understand the Word of God!
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Again, this board isn't for anyone to get on a soapbox and preach. You can discuss different things, but you don't own the forum.

Second, obviously everyone here is convinced what they believe is correct, else they wouldn't believe it. You aren't anymore infallible than anyone else here.
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