a Messianic Jew
An Apostolic
A home churcher
A Church of Christ
two Baptist
a Catholic
an Assembly of God
a Jehovah's Witness....
there ...now we know and these are all sure of thier beliefs..
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WAIT Chuck! You forgot to mention a lunitic from IL! LOL!
Hear is what has been revealed to me from time in the Word. We are under the 10 commandment. This is a very tough area to understand and it is easily distorted. Lets see what Jesus had to say about the law.
Mat 5:17¶Think
not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am
not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you,
Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or shall in one tittle no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall
break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but
whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
We see in 17 that Jesus said he did not come to destroy the law but to fulfil it. What does he mean by that? He means he came to die so that you could take his grace and be empowered to keep the law through him. Notice that he says the law and prophets! The old testiment is good for us also! Is he not fulfilling what it says?
In 18 he says that until the end of heaven and earth not one stoke will disapear from the law. Are we still here?
In vs 19 we see Jesus telling us what happens if we obey and properly teach people to obey ALL the commandments! And what it says about those who say and teach we are not under them!
Then we have to look at this scripture!
Hbr 9:1¶Then verily the first [covenant] had also
ordinances of divine service,
and a worldly sanctuary.
Hbr 9:9 Which [was] a figure for the time then present, in which were
offered both gifts and sacrifices, that
could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;
Hbr 9:10 [Which stood]
only in meats and
drinks, and
divers washings, and
carnal ordinances,
imposed [on them] until the time of reformation.
Here Paul tells us what was wrong with the first covenant and what part was done away with. Vs 1 tells us that the first was made up of ordinances of divine service and a worldly sanctuary. So the priest would go through all the sacrifices and washings and gifts. But they did not make the inside of the people clean. It did not help the conscience! That is why Jesus said this!
Mat 23:25"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!
You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.
Mat 23:26Blind Pharisee!
First clean the inside of the cup and dish,
and then the outside also will be clean.
Mat 23:27"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!
You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.
We see in Heb 9:10 that Paul said these worldly ordinances were imposed on them until the time of reformation. What is this? It is when Jesus died and set things straight! He made a way for you to be empowered by grace to keep the commandments through him. He died for forgiveness of sins but that is only part of it. He died to release you from the bondage and slavery of sin also.
Mat 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many
for the remission of sins.
We have to look at the word remission in the greek!
aphesis
1) release from bondage or imprisonment
2) forgiveness or pardon, of sins (letting them go as if they had never been committed), remission of the penalty
What do we see here! The blood of the new testament was shed so you can be released from and forgiven of your sins.
Here is where it gets distorted!
Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man
is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and
not by the works of the law: for by the
works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
People read this and they say that no man is justified by the law. That is not what this says! They are leaving out a big word! WORKS! What are the works of the law? I went over them just a bit ago. Washings, Sacrifice, Gifts! The worldly ordinances will not justify a man! They will only clean the outside! We see that here also.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship,
created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
This confuses people big time! We are not saved by works but are created unto good works! Say what! We are saved by grace! The power Jesus give us to overcome. Not by washings, gifts and sacrifices. Then Jesus would have died for nothing. When we are empowered by Jesus we are a new creation with good works waiting for us to do. These good works are different than the works of the law!
Hbr 8:10 For this [is] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord;
I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Rom 2:13 (For
not the hearers of the law [are] just before God, but
the doers of the law shall be justified.
Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law,
do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law,
are a law unto themselves:Rom 2:15 Which shew the
work of the law written in their hearts,
their conscience also bearing witness, and [their] thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
What does all this mean!!!!!!!!It means when you go out and you steal something from your neighbor you think, " this isnt right!" Its your conscience speaking to you! Its the law of God written in your heart! You know that its not right to murder you know its not right to cheat on your wife, you know its not right to break the commandments and you feel that inside! If you feel this inside and you are not obeying what you feel inside and directly oppose what you feel inside this can happen!
1Ti 4:1¶Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy;
having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
If we dont listen and obey our conscience it will be seared and we will say silly things like." I am stuck in sin until I die" and "once saved always saved." That my friends is doctrines of devils!
Hbr 10:22let us draw near to God with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies
washed with pure water.
What is this pure water we cleanse ourselves with?
Eph 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the
washing of water by the word,
The Word of God!!!!!!
. Much to interpret with all the different views.
