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Old 06-01-2010, 07:11 PM   #1
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Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Throw some thoughts at me here. "new heaven and new earth"- does this mean a complete desolving of the old heaven and earth, resulting in another act of creating a second heaven and earth? Remember Pauls words concerning the new birth, "old things are passed away, behold all things are become new". Again, never the less I live, yet not I that liveth, but Christ liveth in me.
John said "there was no more sea". The sea is where all rivers empty themselves, correct? The beautiful River of Life that "flows" through that great New City flows and empties itself where?
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"Things that eyes have never seen or have come to the mind of man are the things that God has created for those who love him."
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The former heaven and the former earth,” Satan’s organized system of things with its governmental structure influenced by Satan and his demons, will pass away. The turbulent “sea” of wicked, rebellious mankind will cease to exist. In its place will be “a new heaven and a new earth”—a new earthly society under a new government, know as God’s Kingdom.
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In its place will be “a new heaven and a new earth”

Again I ask, Is this another creative act where God speaks everything into existance. Is everything relating unto the old totally and forever desolved into nothing? Since Gods word is forever settled in Heaven, what happens to Gods eternal word that will nor ever be changed or altered. Do we then have a totally new word of God?
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2nd Peter 3

:5 For this they willfully forget, that there were heavens from of old, and an earth formed out of water and amid water, by the word of God;

3:6 by which means the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished.

3:7 But the heavens that now are, and the earth, by the same word have been stored up for fire, being reserved against the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

3:8 But don't forget this one thing, beloved, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

3:9 The Lord is not slow concerning his promise, as some count slowness; but is patient with us, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.

3:11 Therefore since all these things are thus to be destroyed, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy living and godliness,

3:12 looking for and earnestly desiring the coming of the day of God, by reason of which the heavens being on fire will be dissolved, and the elements will melt with fervent heat?

3:13 But, according to his promise, we look for new heavens and a new earth, in which dwells righteousness.

3:14 Therefore, beloved, seeing that you look for these things, be diligent to be found in peace, without blemish and blameless in his sight.

3:15 Regard the patience of our Lord as salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also, according to the wisdom given to him, wrote to you;

3:16 as also in all of his letters, speaking in them of these things. In those are some things hard to be understood, which the ignorant and unsettled twist, as they also do to the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

3:17 You therefore, beloved, knowing these things beforehand, beware lest, being carried away with the error of the wicked, you fall from your own steadfastness.

3:18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and forever. Amen.
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Oh things are going to be different around here , satan will be gone ,there will be true peace nothing to be sad about


ya its going to be a different place
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Oh things are going to be different around here , satan will be gone ,there will be true peace nothing to be sad about


ya its going to be a different place
You don't read to well Cat. Peter is talking about a physical destruction of the earth, the sea is not People but the literal Oceans, meaning in the new creation things will exist by the mere power of God and nature will be different as we will be different.
We won't be Dependant on an echo system as we are now.
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the earth is not going to be destroyed but the evil that is in the earth is .

all governments that we now know will also go into ruin all replaced with gods government.

remember also that your taking about the book of revelation

rev 1:1

A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented [it] ''in signs''



if you are taking the signs literal you are fouling you self
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the earth is not going to be destroyed but the evil that is in the earth is .

all governments that we now know will also go into ruin all replaced with gods government.

remember also that your taking about the book of revelation

rev 1:1

A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented [it] ''in signs''



if you are taking the signs literal you are fouling you self
I'm Not quoting Revelation or symbolism, I'm quoting "Peter"

3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.

3:11 Therefore since all these things are thus to be destroyed, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy living and godliness,

3:12 looking for and earnestly desiring the coming of the day of God, by reason of which the heavens being on fire will be dissolved, and the elements will melt with fervent heat?

3:13 But, according to his promise, we look for new heavens and a new earth, in which dwells righteousness.
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Old 06-05-2010, 05:08 AM   #10
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For evildoers themselves will be cut off,
But those hoping in Jehovah are the ones that will possess the earth.
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And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more;
And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be.
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But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace
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“Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.

the earth is not to be destroied ,only the evil
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