Leafrivermac said: Sarge, if you want to be saved repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and you shall be. I really believe that a lot of emphisis is placed on the word "repent".
Repentance: In the Old Testament, repentance is the English word used to translate the Hebrew “nacham, to be “eased” or “comforted.” It is the word of both God and man. Notwithstanding the literal meaning of “nacham, it is evident, from a study of all passages, that the sacred writers use it in the sense of “metanoia” in the New Testament-a change of mind.
As in the New Testament, such change of mind is often accompanied by contrition and self-judgment. When applied to God the work is used “phenomenally” according to Old Testament custom. God seems to change His mind. The phenomena are such as, in the case of man, would indicate a change of mind.
Rightly divide the word.
I don't question Bro Mac's statement. If I was seeking truth, I thing I would question the one which IS the way, the truth, and the light.
Jesus said "except ye repent, you shall likewise perish". I would direct my questions to him.
I think Jesus also said "repent and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out".
We could also question the Apostle to the Jews, who responded to the question of, "what MUST we do" to be SAVED, replied Repent. Since some only respect Pauls advice as the Apostle to the Gentiles, He also said in Acts 17:30, "we preach that ALL men EVERYWHERE, repent".
Is the questioning of Leafriver Mac just a smokescreen?
Sarge, your problem is that you confuse "works" and "obediance". Who is doing the work in repentance and baptism? Is it us , or is it God? Clearly it's God. We simply make a decision to give our lives to Christ, confess our sins, and get in the water. . . .Simply being obedient to His Word. That is not contributing anything to our salvation. We are simply putting ourselves in the place where God wants to give us His salvation freely. Thats why Paul spoke of "the obedience of faith" (Rom 1,16). True faith leads to obedience, but obedience is not a work because the obedience itself don't earn us anything. Repenting and getting baptized contributes nothing to our salvation on our part as there is no work involved . .only obedience. God is the One performing the work.
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I don't question Bro Mac's statement. If I was seeking truth, I thing I would question the one which IS the way, the truth, and the light.
Jesus said "except ye repent, you shall likewise perish". I would direct my questions to him.
I think Jesus also said "repent and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out".
We could also question the Apostle to the Jews, who responded to the question of, "what MUST we do" to be SAVED, replied Repent. Since some only respect Pauls advice as the Apostle to the Gentiles, He also said in Acts 17:30, "we preach that ALL men EVERYWHERE, repent".
Is the questioning of Leafriver Mac just a smokescreen?
Well Snooky you are not reading, you are only seeing what you want to see.
"What must WE do" to be saved? Who is the "we"? Israel, all Israel. Does God deal with us as a nation? i think not.
But lets look at Acts `6:30. And brought them out (Paul and Silas) and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? Notice the different? We are not the "we". We are now the "I".
And did Paul and Silas tell him to "repent and be baptized"? Do you see any difference in the two? If the jailer had to repent and be baptized, it would have said so.
Again, what does "repent" mean? Also who was Jesus speaking to in the scripture?
Smokescreen? I am only telling you what the book is saying.
Sarge, your problem is that you confuse "works" and "obediance". Who is doing the work in repentance and baptism? Who has already done the work. That is what you fail to see and understand. The way you say is you won't know until the end whether you are saved. Then how can you tell someone else how to be saved? Is it us , or is it God? Clearly it's God. We simply make a decision to give our lives to Christ, confess our sins, and get in the water . . . .and that water will only get you wet. Simply being obedient to His Word. That is not contributing anything to our salvation. We are simply putting ourselves in the place where God wants to give us His salvation freely. Thats why Paul spoke of "the obedience of faith" (Rom 1,16). True faith leads to obedience, but obedience is not a work because the obedience itself don't earn us anything. Repenting and getting baptized contributes nothing to our salvation on our part as there is no work involved . .only obedience. God is the One performing the work.
You just keep putting your faith in repenting and getting wet and you will soon see where it will take you.
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