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Old 12-09-2009, 07:03 PM   #1
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Does Death Exist? New Theory Says 'No'
Posted: December 8, 2009 04:06 PM
Does Death Exist? New Theory Says 'No'
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Many of us fear death. We believe in death because we have been told we will die. We associate ourselves with the body, and we know that bodies die. But a new scientific theory suggests that death is not the terminal event we think.

One well-known aspect of quantum physics is that certain observations cannot be predicted absolutely. Instead, there is a range of possible observations each with a different probability. One mainstream explanation, the "many-worlds" interpretation, states that each of these possible observations corresponds to a different universe (the 'multiverse'). A new scientific theory - called biocentrism - refines these ideas. There are an infinite number of universes, and everything that could possibly happen occurs in some universe. Death does not exist in any real sense in these scenarios. All possible universes exist simultaneously, regardless of what happens in any of them. Although individual bodies are destined to self-destruct, the alive feeling - the 'Who am I?'- is just a 20-watt fountain of energy operating in the brain. But this energy doesn't go away at death. One of the surest axioms of science is that energy never dies; it can neither be created nor destroyed. But does this energy transcend from one world to the other?

Consider an experiment that was recently published in the journal Science showing that scientists could retroactively change something that had happened in the past. Particles had to decide how to behave when they hit a beam splitter. Later on, the experimenter could turn a second switch on or off. It turns out that what the observer decided at that point, determined what the particle did in the past. Regardless of the choice you, the observer, make, it is you who will experience the outcomes that will result. The linkages between these various histories and universes transcend our ordinary classical ideas of space and time. Think of the 20-watts of energy as simply holo-projecting either this or that result onto a screen. Whether you turn the second beam splitter on or off, it's still the same battery or agent responsible for the projection.

According to Biocentrism, space and time are not the hard objects we think. Wave your hand through the air - if you take everything away, what's left? Nothing. The same thing applies for time. You can't see anything through the bone that surrounds your brain. Everything you see and experience right now is a whirl of information occurring in your mind. Space and time are simply the tools for putting everything together.

Death does not exist in a timeless, spaceless world. In the end, even Einstein admitted, "Now Besso" (an old friend) "has departed from this strange world a little ahead of me. That means nothing. People like us...know that the distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion." Immortality doesn't mean a perpetual existence in time without end, but rather resides outside of time altogether.

This was clear with the death of my sister Christine. After viewing her body at the hospital, I went out to speak with family members. Christine's husband - Ed - started to sob uncontrollably. For a few moments I felt like I was transcending the provincialism of time. I thought about the 20-watts of energy, and about experiments that show a single particle can pass through two holes at the same time. I could not dismiss the conclusion: Christine was both alive and dead, outside of time.

Christine had had a hard life. She had finally found a man that she loved very much. My younger sister couldn't make it to her wedding because she had a card game that had been scheduled for several weeks. My mother also couldn't make the wedding due to an important engagement she had at the Elks Club. The wedding was one of the most important days in Christine's life. Since no one else from our side of the family showed, Christine asked me to walk her down the aisle to give her away.

Soon after the wedding, Christine and Ed were driving to the dream house they had just bought when their car hit a patch of black ice. She was thrown from the car and landed in a banking of snow.

"Ed," she said "I can't feel my leg."

She never knew that her liver had been ripped in half and blood was rushing into her peritoneum.

After the death of his son, Emerson wrote "Our life is not so much threatened as our perception. I grieve that grief can teach me nothing, nor carry me one step into real nature."

Whether it's flipping the switch for the Science experiment, or turning the driving wheel ever so slightly this way or that way on black-ice, it's the 20-watts of energy that will experience the result. In some cases the car will swerve off the road, but in other cases the car will continue on its way to my sister's dream house.

Christine had recently lost 100 pounds, and Ed had bought her a surprise pair of diamond earrings. It's going to be hard to wait, but I know Christine is going to look fabulous in them the next time I see her.

Robert Lanza, MD is considered one of the leading scientists in the world. He is the author of "Biocentrism," a book that lays out his theory of everything.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-lan...84515.html

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Old 12-10-2009, 06:14 AM   #2
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To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord only reinforces my belief that we do not die, but simply walk into the next world.
When my wife died, I remember one of her employees crying franticly. I reassured him that she didn't die, I told him she is more alive than any of are. She's is in heaven enjoying every moment.
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Old 12-10-2009, 07:31 PM   #3
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Yes, and it's a horror because we cease to be human beings when we die. Human beings are body and soul joined together. In death, they're ripped away from each other and the two parts are remains. Strictly speaking, neither the body, nor the soul are human anymore. The soul persists, of course, and is conscious, but it isn't really human till it gets its body back.

By the way, that article is making a big leap because it assumes the soul is energy. Energy is physical, but souls are spiritual in nature. They don't have physical properties. If they did, they'd be body parts. They're distinct from our bodies.
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Old 12-12-2009, 05:38 AM   #4
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The New Catholic Encyclopedia
"The soul in the O[ld] T[estament] means not a part of man, but the whole man—man as a living being. Similarly, in the N[ew] T[estament] it signifies human life: the life of an individual, conscious subject "(Mt 2.20; 6.25


that being the case the soul can and does die
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Old 12-12-2009, 05:43 AM   #5
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In the Bible the word "soul" applies not only to humans but also to animals. For example, in describing the creation of sea creatures, Genesis 1:20 says that God commanded: "Let the waters swarm forth a swarm of living souls." And on the next creative day, God said: "Let the earth put forth living souls according to their kinds, domestic animal and moving animal and wild beast of the earth according to its kind." (Genesis 1:24; compare Numbers 31:28.) Hence, "soul" can refer to a living creature, whether human or animal.
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In the Bible the word "soul" applies not only to humans but also to animals. For example, in describing the creation of sea creatures, Genesis 1:20 says that God commanded: "Let the waters swarm forth a swarm of living souls." And on the next creative day, God said: "Let the earth put forth living souls according to their kinds, domestic animal and moving animal and wild beast of the earth according to its kind." (Genesis 1:24; compare Numbers 31:28.) Hence, "soul" can refer to a living creature, whether human or animal.
What version are you using? Mine, and I believe most, refer to "creatures" in those passages.


But we are creatures with charming personalities
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Old 12-12-2009, 05:51 AM   #7
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The Bible’s definition of the soul is simple, consistent, and unencumbered by the complicated philosophies and superstitions of men.

i find many if not all you men full of superstitions ,you don't know what some thing is so you makeup or repeat philosophies that have no merit.

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Old 12-12-2009, 06:02 AM   #8
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crea·ture (krchr)
n. 1. Something created.
2. a. A living being, especially an animal: land creatures; microscopic creatures in a drop of water.
b. A human.
c. An imaginary or fantastical being: mythological creatures; a creature from outer space.

3. One dependent on or subservient to another.

as can be seen A&B are consistent,with what a soul is
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Old 12-12-2009, 07:28 AM   #9
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In the Bible the word "soul" applies not only to humans but also to animals. For example, in describing the creation of sea creatures, Genesis 1:20 says that God commanded: "Let the waters swarm forth a swarm of living souls." And on the next creative day, God said: "Let the earth put forth living souls according to their kinds, domestic animal and moving animal and wild beast of the earth according to its kind." (Genesis 1:24; compare Numbers 31:28.) Hence, "soul" can refer to a living creature, whether human or animal.
You are confusing the soul with the spirit, while animals have soul (Nephesh)all living creatures have soul, man was given Rhuach and Nephesh, Spirit and soul,"God breath Rhuach into man and he became a living soul" The Spirit cannot die and Humans retain both soul and Spirit when they die.
Hebrew is a very specific Language and it makes a distinction between the Rhuach and the Nephesh.

Ecc;12:7

For then the dust will return to the earth, and the spirit will return to God who gave it.
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Old 12-12-2009, 09:38 AM   #10
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I'm not confused but a lot of people are .
Speaking about man’s death, Ecclesiastes 12:7 states: "The dust [of his body] returns to the earth just as it happened to be and the spirit itself returns to the true God who gave it." When the spirit, or life-force, leaves the body, the body dies and returns to where it came from—the earth. Comparably, the life-force returns to where it came from—God. (Job 34:14, 15; Psalm 36:9) This does not mean that the life-force actually travels to heaven. Rather, it means that for someone who dies, any hope of future life rests with Jehovah God. His life is in God’s hands, so to speak. Only by God’s power can the spirit, or life-force, be given back so that a person may live again.
At death no actual movement from the earth to the heavenly realm occurs when the spirit "returns" to God. Once the life-force is gone from a person, only God has the ability to restore it to him. So the spirit "returns to the true God" in the sense that any hope of future life for that person now rests entirely with God.
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