How do the evolutionists explain the dino petroglyphs found all over the world? It seems like very good evidence for the existence of man and dinosaurs at the same time, and if so, the total destruction of the theory of evolution.
How do the evolutionists explain the dino petroglyphs found all over the world? It seems like very good evidence for the existence of man and dinosaurs at the same time, and if so, the total destruction of the theory of evolution.
Goose, even if I were to concede that some living dinosaurs survived until recent times and might even still exist it would have no impact on the theory of evolution. The theory of evolution does not require that dinosaurs be extinct. The mainstream science community believes dinosaurs are extinct because although their remains are often found in Mesozoic strata (65-220 million years ago) there do not seem to be any living dinosaurs today. Scientists believe they became extinct 65 million years ago because while rocks between 220 million and 65 million years ago contain dinosaur fossils, tracks, corprolites, ect., absolutely no evidence of the existence of dinosaurs has ever been found in rock layers younger than the Cretaceous/Tertiary (KT) boundary of 65 million years ago. However, if dinosaur fossils were ever found in Tertiary sediments or if even a live dinosaur were found in the heart of deepest Africa it would be one of the greatest scientific discoveries of all time but it would not falsify the theory of evolution. It would simply indicate some dinosaurs somehow survived beyond the KT boundary.
If you want to falsify the theory of evolution you have to find evidence that humans and dinosaurs co-existed during the Mesozoic era. Evolutionary scientists will concede that while it is highly unlikely, it is not impossible that some dinosaurs survived to fairly recent time. On the other hand they would have to agree that it is essentially impossible for their to be any human fossils or artifacts in Mesozoic sediments. This is because the Mesozoic ended 65 million years ago and the earliest evidence of hominids is only 3 to 4 million years old and the earliest anatomically modern humans did not appear until 150,000 years ago.
I don't believe Dinosours are part of our Creation Time, I believe as Jewish sages teach, this earth has being created and destroyed at least 5 times before, science also agrees with this theory, Jewish sages believe that the next destruction will be the last and that man will evolved as spiritual beings and live forever, very closed to what the Prophets and Messiah taught.
The Spiritual an body evolution can only be achieved by believing in the messiah.
Shalom
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
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I don't believe Dynosours are part of our Creation Time, I believe as Jewish sages teach, this earth has being created and destroyed at least 5 times before, science also agrees with this theory, Jewish sages believe that the next destruction will be the last and that man will evolved as spiritual beings and live forever, very closed to what the Prophets and Messiah taught.
The Spiritual an body evolution can only be achieved by believing in the messiah.
Shalom
Not being sarcastic, but out of all religions, that makes the most sense! I like it.
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"Real knowledge is to know the extent of one’s ignorance."
On the other hand they would have to agree that it is essentially impossible for their to be any human fossils or artifacts in Mesozoic sentiments. This is because the Mesozoic ended 65 million years ago and the earliest evidence of hominids is only 3 to 4 million years old and the earliest anatomically modern humans did not appear until 150,000 years ago.
The Bible teaches that man and dinosaurs were created on the same day. My point in this post, is that if humans didn't exist for millions of years after the dinos were extinct, how come humans were able to draw very exact drawings of the dinos? They should have had no possible way of knowing how they looked? But there are many petroglyphs that show how humans did know what a dinosaur looked like.
On top of that, why so many legends of dragons and similar stories from all over the world? These stories describe an animal that is very similar to a dinosaur, how did they know, how could they even concieve any such creature?
The Bible teaches that man and dinosaurs were created on the same day. My point in this post, is that if humans didn't exist for millions of years after the dinos were extinct, how come humans were able to draw very exact drawings of the dinos? They should have had no possible way of knowing how they looked? But there are many petroglyphs that show how humans did know what a dinosaur looked like.
On top of that, why so many legends of dragons and similar stories from all over the world? These stories describe an animal that is very similar to a dinosaur, how did they know, how could they even concieve any such creature?
Chapter and verse please !
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
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The Bible teaches that man and dinosaurs were created on the same day. My point in this post, is that if humans didn't exist for millions of years after the dinos were extinct, how come humans were able to draw very exact drawings of the dinos? They should have had no possible way of knowing how they looked? But there are many petroglyphs that show how humans did know what a dinosaur looked like.
On top of that, why so many legends of dragons and similar stories from all over the world? These stories describe an animal that is very similar to a dinosaur, how did they know, how could they even concieve any such creature?
I can assure you that animals and plants were designed to be as they are, As a Taxidermist for over 40 years I have had plenty to look at and ponder, one thing that looks like a dinosour is a turkey without the feathers , if you take it and leave the legs and neck and freeze dry it , you have a small replica of a dinosour, what that tells me is the creator used the design of great beasts which existed at one time and reduced them in size to fit ,OUR own time.
The Bible in Genesis does not mention dinosours,The Jewish Calendar taken from the day of Adam's creation to today is only
6,000 years old, so dinosours and other things that were killed in several different disasters is showing the World being destroyed and created with different species, that is why the missing link doesn't exist, in reality the mIssing Link is the "creator".
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
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Understanding What The Hebrews wrote , not what westerners understand.
When we read Genesis chapter one we usually see only one story there, but there are actually many stories. Why don't we see these multiple stories? Because we read the Hebrew Bible from a Modern Western thinkers point of view and not from an Ancient Eastern thinkers such as the Hebrews who wrote it. The Hebrews style of writing is prolific with a style of poetry unfamiliar to most readers of the Bible. This poetry is nothing like the poetry we are used to reading today and therefore it is invisible to us.
The most common form of Hebrew poetry is called parallelism. Parallelism is when the writer says one thing in two or more different ways. The Psalms and Proverbs are filled with these such as the examples below.
Psalms 119:105 - "Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light for my path." The first part of this verse is paralleled with the second part. This verse is not saying two different things, rather, one thing in two different ways.
Proverbs 3:1 - "My son, do not forget my teaching, and keep my commands in your heart." Again the first part is paralleled with the second part.
Genesis 4:23 - Lamech said to his wives, "Adah and Zillah, listen to me; wives of Lamech, hear my words. I have killed a man for wounding me and a young man for injuring me."
Let's break down what Lamech says; [Adah and Zillah, listen to me] = [wives of Lamech, hear my words] then he says; I have killed [a man for wounding me] = [a young man for injuring me]. Lamech did not wound one and injure another, but killed one person and says it two different ways.
Often we overlook what the Bible is telling us because we are not recognizing what the poetry of a passage is attempting to convey. For example look at Psalms 40:8; "I desire to do your will, O my God; your Torah is within my heart" Here we see that doing the will of God is the same thing as having the Torah within your heart.
Now let us look at the Creation story Parallels of Genesis chapter one. Creation Story Number 1
The first story is found in Genesis 1.1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." The Hebrew word "bara" is a verb and is usually translated as "create". To really understand what this word means let us look at another passage where this word is used.
1 Samuel 2.29 - Why do you scorn my sacrifice and offering that I prescribed for my dwelling? Why do you honor your sons more than me by fattening yourselves on the choice parts of every offering made by my people Israel?' The word "fattening" in the passage above is the Hebrew word "bara". The noun form of this verb is "beriya" and can be found in Genesis 41.4 - "And the cows that were ugly and gaunt ate up the seven sleek, fat cows." The word "fat" is the Hebrew word "beriya".
The word "bara" does not mean, "create" (Hebrew actually has no word that meaning "create" in the sense of something out of nothing) but "to fatten". If we take the literal definition of "bara" in Genesis 1.1 we have - In the beginning God fattened the heavens and the earth. What does this fattening of the heavens and earth mean? This verse is not showing the creation of the heaven and earth, but rather the fattening or filling up of it. Therefore, Genesis 1.1 is a condensed version of the whole creation story. Creation Story Number 2
The second creation story paralleling Genesis 1.1 is Genesis 1.2 - "and the earth was unfilled and empty and darkness was over the face of the deep, and the Wind of God was hovering over the waters." In this passage we see that the earth was formless and empty before it was filled up, then the Wind of God hovers over the waters of the earth. This hovering would be the action of the Wind of god filling up the earth.
The use of the word "and" at the beginning of this verse may cause some confusion due to an understanding of how this word is used in Hebrew. In English the word "and" in between verses one and two means that what happens in verse two occurs after what happens in verse one. In Hebrew, the word "and" is used in standard Hebrew poetry to link two statements as one. In other words, verse one is the same thing as verse two. Creation Story Number 3
The third story is found in Genesis 1.3-5. "And God said, 'Let there be light', and there was light and God saw that the light was good and he separated the light from the darkness and God called the light 'day', and the darkness he called 'night' and there was evening, and there was morning, the first day".
Hebrew, like English, has a word for one and a different word for first. The same is true for the words two and second, three and third, etc. As an example the Hebrew word for "three" is "shelosh", and the Hebrew word for "third" is "sheliyshiy". Days 2 - 7 use the Hebrew word for second, third, fourth, etc. We would assume that the "first" day would use the Hebrew word "reshon" meaning "first" in order to be consistent with the other six days, but instead we have the word "echad" meaning "one" or " in unity". The author is making a parallel with the "first" day and with all the days of creation. I believe this is because all seven days of the fattening of the earth are being united in this verse. The first day of creation is also a parallel with the whole of creation as the earth was in darkness and the act of filling the earth brought light to the earth. Creation Story Number 4
The fourth creation story is found in Genesis 1.3-13. In these passages we have the first three days of creation. These are the days of separating. On the first day God separated light and darkness. On the second day God separated the waters above from the waters below forming the sky and the seas. On the third day God separated the land from the water forming dry land. Creation Story Number 5
The fifth creation story is found in Genesis 1.14-31. In these passages we have the second set of three days of creation. On the fourth day God filled the light with the sun and the darkness with the moon and stars. On the fifth day God filled the sky with the birds and the sea with the fish. On the sixth day God filled the dry land with the animals and man. Notice the correlation between the first set of three days of separation with the second set of three days of filling. Creation Story Number 6
The sixth story is the whole of Genesis chapter one. Though we have looked at five different stories of creation, they are all combined together to form one complete story of creation. CONCLUSION
It must be remembered that modern western thinkers view events in step logic. This is the idea that each event comes after the previous forming a series of events in a linear timeline. But, the Hebrews did not think in step logic but in block logic. This is the grouping together of similar ideas together and not in chronological order. Most people read Genesis chapter one from a step logic perspective or chronological, rather than from the block logic so prevalent in Hebrew poetry.
Jeff A. Benner
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
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Genesis 1:24-31The sixth day of creation
"Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth, each according to its kind”; and it was so. And God made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
And God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food. Also, to every beast of the earth, to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, in which there is life, I have given every green herb for food”; and it was so. Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day."
It's amazing to me that the people that God chose to bring the Savior into the world are the first to trade His truth for the ideas of men!
Who cares what a "sage" might say, what does the Bible say? Or does 2 Timothy 3:16-17 not apply to Genesis?
Dinosaur Petroglyphs
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