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Old 10-05-2009, 05:21 PM   #1
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The Man Of Sin A Jew ?
The Man of Sin, The Antichrist , many people believed he would be a Jew, due to what Daniel Chapter 11 says,
36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.


37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.


38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

Now this was Partially Fulfilled by Hitler who was the second Anti Christ of our times, Hitler also was of Jewish descendncy and he did everything possible to cover his Jewish family background.
That expression of verse 37 is purely a Hebrew Expression referring to a Jew.
So would the Last anti Christ be a Jew traitor as Judah was to Christ ?
Paul says the apostasy would come first, I don't think anyone who reads the bible can't argue we are in apostasy times, most Christians don't know what to believe, Pastors fall by the way side like flies, Then when the apostasy takes place he would be revealed.
"Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our
gathering together to him, we ask you not to be soon shaken in mind or
troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though
the day of Christ had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for
that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man
of sin is revealed, the son of perdition" (NKJV).



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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's vitriolic attacks on the Jewish world hide an astonishing secret, evidence uncovered by The Daily Telegraph shows.

By Damien McElroy and Ahmad Vahdat
Published: 7:30AM BST 03 Oct 2009

A photograph of the Iranian president holding up his identity card during elections in March 2008 clearly shows his family has Jewish roots.
A close-up of the document reveals he was previously known as Sabourjian – a Jewish name meaning cloth weaver.
The short note scrawled on the card suggests his family changed its name to Ahmadinejad when they converted to embrace Islam after his birth.


Ahmadinejad showing papers during election. It shows that his family's previous name was Jewish

The Sabourjians traditionally hail from Aradan, Mr Ahmadinejad's birthplace, and the name derives from "weaver of the Sabour", the name for the Jewish Tallit shawl in Persia. The name is even on the list of reserved names for Iranian Jews compiled by Iran's Ministry of the Interior.
Experts last night suggested Mr Ahmadinejad's track record for hate-filled attacks on Jews could be an overcompensation to hide his past.
Ali Nourizadeh, of the Centre for Arab and Iranian Studies, said: "This aspect of Mr Ahmadinejad's background explains a lot about him.
"Every family that converts into a different religion takes a new identity by condemning their old faith.
"By making anti-Israeli statements he is trying to shed any suspicions about his Jewish connections. He feels vulnerable in a radical Shia society."
A London-based expert on Iranian Jewry said that "jian" ending to the name specifically showed the family had been practising Jews.
"He has changed his name for religious reasons, or at least his parents had," said the Iranian-born Jew living in London. "Sabourjian is well known Jewish name in Iran."
A spokesman for the Israeli embassy in London said it would not be drawn on Mr Ahmadinejad's background. "It's not something we'd talk about," said Ron Gidor, a spokesman.
The Iranian leader has not denied his name was changed when his family moved to Tehran in the 1950s. But he has never revealed what it was change from or directly addressed the reason for the switch.
Relatives have previously said a mixture of religious reasons and economic pressures forced his blacksmith father Ahmad to change when Mr Ahmadinejad was aged four.
The Iranian president grew up to be a qualified engineer with a doctorate in traffic management. He served in the Revolutionary Guards militia before going on to make his name in hardline politics in the capital.
During this year's presidential debate on television he was goaded to admit that his name had changed but he ignored the jibe.
However Mehdi Khazali, an internet blogger, who called for an investigation of Mr Ahmadinejad's roots was arrested this summer.
Mr Ahmadinejad has regularly levelled bitter criticism at Israel, questioned its right to exist and denied the Holocaust. British diplomats walked out of a UN meeting last month after the Iranian president denounced Israel's 'genocide, barbarism and racism.'
Benjamin Netanyahu made an impassioned denunciation of the Iranian leader at the same UN summit. "Yesterday, the man who calls the Holocaust a lie spoke from this podium," he said. "A mere six decades after the Holocaust, you give legitimacy to a man who denies the murder of six million Jews while promising to wipe out the State of Israel, the State of the Jews. What a disgrace. What a mockery of the charter of the United Nations."
Mr Ahmadinejad has been consistently outspoken about the Nazi attempt to wipe out the Jewish race. "They have created a myth today that they call the massacre of Jews and they consider it a principle above God, religions and the prophets," he declared at a conference on the holocaust staged in Tehran in 2006.

>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...wish-past.html#
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Old 10-05-2009, 06:20 PM   #2
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I find verse 37 particularly interesting based on my own experiences.

Thanks for sharing Kosher.
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:37, Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any God: for he shall magnify himself above all.
I'm told that the Hebrew word for woman is also translated "wife". The translation then could have been, the desire of wives. At the time when this King, (government) shall set out to convince all that God doesn't exist, (destroy trust in Gods word) he also seeks to destroy the most sacred institition of Chrisanity, the marriage of a man and a woman. Marrying and giving in marriage, putting away of spouses at will. Men with men, working that which is unseemly, ect. Disobedient unto parents=forsaking the teachings and traditions handed down from generations past. Bringing in a "new morality", not based upon the estabilished laws of God. Marriage has been called of late, "the sacrament of adultry". These anti-christian, anti-social practices do nor satisfy the rampant desires or purpose of the frantic, and inconciderable zealots thay urge them forward.
"Nor regard any God." Shows the utter atheism of this kingdom. The fear of God is foolishness as proven by scientific facts, sound strangely familiar? And the bible is a collections of fables, and events that couldn't possibly have happened. They that are not for us are against us the bible declares. The so-called churches of today are filled with enemies of the cross of our lord Jesus Christ. Modesty is only the invention of refined volupousness. The Supreme King, The God of the Jews and Christians is but a phantom. Jesus Christ is an imposter. He wasn't God manifest in the flesh. He wasn't the Mighty God. He wasn't the only wise God and Savior. All power wasn't given unto him in Heaven and Earth. The fulness of the Godhead didn't dwell bodily in him.
The worship of "reason" was introduced in 1794. Chaumette said, "Legislative reason has lost its hold: it has given place to reason".
A vailed female was brought into the convention, arrayed in blue drapery: Chaumette taking her by the hand declared, Morals shall cease to tremble before the powerless thunders of a God whom your fathers have created.Henseforth know acknowledge no devinity, but reason.
Truly this was a God whom their fathers knew not.
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Snooky, is there anywhere else in the good book that also states people will not be allowed to marry?
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Last week you said it was Obama, didn't you?
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Last week you said it was Obama, didn't you?
I think you are right.
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Last week you said it was Obama, didn't you?
There are two figures in the last days, the man of sin and the False prophet , who bring about the final conflict Both are Anti-Christs, you must learn to read.
One prepares the Way for the other so he can take over or try, because a take over of the World or Israel is a big task, read what I said;

Most all presidents and World Leaders have being deemed to be the Antichrist at some time or other.
We even have another thread going on about this.
But Today's Obama's speech to the U.N. Calling for Israel to Stop and desist on building on what he called occupied territory by Jews and calling for the Divison of Jerusalem as a two Capital City and affirming " This will bring Peace and security, Remember that verse that says, when they say peace and security, then sudden destruction will come, This leaves no doubt in my mind , if he is not the Antichrist he is the Elijah of the false Messiah,

Hard to tell yet who is who??
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Remmy;1 Timothy 4:3 declares that some who have departed from the faith, (shall not regard the God of his fathers) will forbid to marry. There were commandments to not marry into the heathens around Israel, and it would be better if the young men could contain, it would be better to remain unmarried. But Tim. is the only scripture that comes to mind that says, "forbid to marry".
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Thanks Snooky
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What are you doing up at 2;56 AM are you a night Owl ? LOL
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