I can't help but believe the events in the past 7-8 days are nothing but Bible fulfillment of the end time.
On One Hand President Barach Hussein Obama delivered the most anti Semitic Message a US president have ever delivered before a UN Assembly, Followed by all the raggedy dictators of the middle East and the Left Wing Crapola of Central America and the Caribbean.
The Theme was clear , Israel is at fault of everything in the World, Geno-ciders, Trouble makers Occupiers, I heard it all.
3 days later Barack Hussein Obama, the man who nobody Knows where he came from, the man whose Father no one knows really where he came from, the man nobody knows for sure where he was born, the man whose religion no one is sure what it is, who claims to be a "Christian" And I have to quote, unquote Christian" If You think his pastor Rev, wright is a Christian, then I'm not sure what kind of Christian Barack Hussein Obama is.
Well he and the Nazis from Germany and , Socialist from France were coming down on Iran.
The Plan seems to be , let Israel attack Iran's Nuclear facilities, we will lay back and wait and see the reaction of the rest of the Muslim World and other Left Wing anti Israel Crapola.
So when they try to Blame us , we will just sit back and say, Hey ! "The evil genocidal Israel did it, don't look at us"Please don't stop selling us oil?'' please please pretty please ! waw waw waw.
Israel unfortunately will have to stand alone, as you read Ezekiel 38-39 you wonder what made all this nations including Russia come against Israel ? what is the Trigger that cause this mad mad hatred to exterminated Israel once and for all ?
Will Israel be the Patsy ? Or are they going in ,knowing the full consequences ? in the carnal world war, in the spiritual World one last war to usher in the Messiah.
AL.
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
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The Plan seems to be , let Israel attack Iran's Nuclear facilities, we will lay back and wait and see the reaction of the rest of the Muslim World and other Left Wing anti Israel Crapola.
So when they try to Blame us , we will just sit back and say, Hey ! "The evil genocidal Israel did it, don't look at us"Please don't stop selling us oil?'' please please pretty please ! waw waw waw.
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Leaving out detail. I am not sure their is a plan for dealing with Iran.... If israel become media scrap goat, which I am not sure will be the case, remember Arabs have no love for Iran. The best option may have been passed over by this administration when they did not lend more support to Iranians trying to take back their country. Pure stupidity and show a lack of interest in a free and open government in Iran.
Our , US 's problems are more with Arabs. Wahabees, to be specific. Good people running israel now. That is my opinion anyhow. Everybody has a cross to bare Alex.
... but then even my wife doesn't listen to me. Have at it
I can't help but believe the events in the past 7-8 days are nothing but Bible fulfillment of the end time.
On One Hand President Barach Hussein Obama delivered the most anti Semitic Message a US president have ever delivered before a UN Assembly, Followed by all the raggedy dictators of the middle East and the Left Wing Crapola of Central America and the Caribbean.
The Theme was clear , Israel is at fault of everything in the World, Geno-ciders, Trouble makers Occupiers, I heard it all.
3 days later Barack Hussein Obama, the man who nobody Knows where he came from, the man whose Father no one knows really where he came from, the man nobody knows for sure where he was born, the man whose religion no one is sure what it is, who claims to be a "Christian" And I have to quote, unquote Christian" If You think his pastor Rev, wright is a Christian, then I'm not sure what kind of Christian Barack Hussein Obama is.
Well he and the Nazis from Germany and , Socialist from France were coming down on Iran.
The Plan seems to be , let Israel attack Iran's Nuclear facilities, we will lay back and wait and see the reaction of the rest of the Muslim World and other Left Wing anti Israel Crapola.
So when they try to Blame us , we will just sit back and say, Hey ! "The evil genocidal Israel did it, don't look at us"Please don't stop selling us oil?'' please please pretty please ! waw waw waw.
Israel unfortunately will have to stand alone, as you read Ezekiel 38-39 you wonder what made all this nations including Russia come against Israel ? what is the Trigger that cause this mad mad hatred to exterminated Israel once and for all ?
Will Israel be the Patsy ? Or are they going in ,knowing the full consequences ? in the carnal world war, in the spiritual World one last war to usher in the Messiah.
AL.
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Are you saying the events in Ezekiel 38-39 have already happened? These are future events and most agree it will happen in the first year of the tribulation.
How else will Israel burn the remains of the weapons for 7 years. Also reading Ezekiel 39, note that this is just like cleaning up after a Nuclear explosion.
And they shall sever out men of continual employment, passing through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the earth, to cleanse it: after the end of seven months shall they search.
And the passengers [that] pass through the land, when [any] seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamongog.
Are you saying the events in Ezekiel 38-39 have already happened? These are future events and most agree it will happen in the first year of the tribulation.
How else will Israel burn the remains of the weapons for 7 years. Also reading Ezekiel 39, note that this is just like cleaning up after a Nuclear explosion.
And they shall sever out men of continual employment, passing through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the earth, to cleanse it: after the end of seven months shall they search.
And the passengers [that] pass through the land, when [any] seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamongog.
They will be marklng the radio active spots.
Thoughts?
No I didn't say that, I said this could lead to it.
Seems to me your eschatology is way off, when Ezekiel's prophecy of chpt 37-38 is fulfilled this is the coming of the Messiah.
That Clean up will take place with Christ already here, so is not the tribulation anymore, 7 years it will take because the number 7 in Hebrew means "Completion".
you have a love for the things of the Lord but I feel bad, someone has taught you the wrong time in Eschatology.
But Not too worry I believe you and me are going to see our redeemer in the clouds very soon.
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
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No I didn't say that, I said this could lead to it.
Seems to me your eschatology is way off, when Ezekiel's prophecy of chpt 37-38 is fulfilled this is the coming of the Messiah.
That Clean up will take place with Christ already here, so is not the tribulation anymore, 7 years it will take because the number 7 in Hebrew means "Completion".
you have a love for the things of the Lord but I feel bad, someone has taught you the wrong time in Eschatology.
But Not too worry I believe you and me are going to see our redeemer in the clouds very soon.
I believe it will be soon also, but this is not the battle of Armageddon. Note in the scripture, Israel will use the remains of the leftover weapons for 7 years as fuel.
And guess what, Russian take are made out of a type of wood. Fits right in.
I believe it will be soon also, but this is not the battle of Armageddon. Note in the scripture, Israel will use the remains of the leftover weapons for 7 years as fuel.
And guess what, Russian take are made out of a type of wood. Fits right in.
Yes it is Armagheddon, listen;
Chpt 37 16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
17 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them? (Joel 3;2
I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will enter into judgment against them concerning my inheritance, my people Israel, for they scattered my people among the nations and divided up my land.) TO GET TO THE VALLEY OF JEHOSHAPAHT COMING FROM THE NORTH THE ARMIES WILL HAVE TO PASS THROUGH THE VALLEY OF JEZREL OR MEGGIDO IN ANCIENT TIMES>
18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face.
19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.
21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother.
22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.
23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.
Chapter 39
8 Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord GOD; this is the day whereof I have spoken
This is it the day the LOrd Has spoken off through many prophets, there won't be anymore battles after this one.
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
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Yes it is Armagheddon, listen;
Chpt 37 16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
17 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them? (Joel 3;2
I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will enter into judgment against them concerning my inheritance, my people Israel, for they scattered my people among the nations and divided up my land.) TO GET TO THE VALLEY OF JEHOSHAPAHT COMING FROM THE NORTH THE ARMIES WILL HAVE TO PASS THROUGH THE VALLEY OF JEZREL OR MEGGIDO IN ANCIENT TIMES>
18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face.
19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.
21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother.
22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.
23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.
Chapter 39
8 Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord GOD; this is the day whereof I have spoken
This is it the day the LOrd Has spoken off through many prophets, there won't be anymore battles after this one.
Again, can't be. Why would the LORD leave one sixth of them and not kill them all.
Ezekiel 39:2 And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel:
In the battle of armageddon the armies come from the east. 200,000,000, and who has this big of an army now? China.
What are the last days of Scripture? Everything from Christ’s advent on. A lot of people think that the last days are just like the Tribulation and the Second Coming. No that’s the latter days. The last days is that whole period of time from His first advent to the end of the Age of Grace.
Why would these countries listed in Ezekiel come againist Israel.
This is just a scenario, but is very possible with what we see happening today....
I know you do not believe in a pre-tribulation rapture, but I do. So, lets say the Body of Christ is raptured out of here in the twinkling of an eye. Everyone knows if that happens, it will be total chaos, especially in the United States.
Then the anti-christ comes on the scene and he has all the answers and everyone will fall for him hook line and sinker. He makes a 7 year peace treaty with Israel and that will kick off the 7 year tribulation period.
So now Israel feels safe and will probably disband its military. Russia and the others know that what is left of the US is still a concern for them. So they launch their missiles (the ones that were and are at this time still aimed at the US) to destroy the US. Our military will still be operating and still have some power as all Americians will not be raptured. The US sees these missiles coming and launch what we have aimed at Russian (were and still are aimed). The US will still have submarines out there and will have the ability to launch Nuclear missiles. This explains the verse in Ezekiel (39:6) about Gog's homeland being destroyed. What was left of the US will be completly destroyed and that will open up this invasion on Israel by Russia, Iran, Turkey and the others.
But again, God will turn their weapons on each other and kill all but one sixth and then you can pick up at Ezekiel 39: 12-16.
Just some thoughts on what could happen. I am not predicting any of this, just look at the countries involved and then watch the news.
Again, can't be. Why would the LORD leave one sixth of them and not kill them all.
Ezekiel 39:2 And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel:
In the battle of armageddon the armies come from the east. 200,000,000, and who has this big of an army now? China.
What are the last days of Scripture? Everything from Christ’s advent on. A lot of people think that the last days are just like the Tribulation and the Second Coming. No that’s the latter days. The last days is that whole period of time from His first advent to the end of the Age of Grace.
Why would these countries listed in Ezekiel come againist Israel.
This is just a scenario, but is very possible with what we see happening today....
I know you do not believe in a pre-tribulation rapture, but I do. So, lets say the Body of Christ is raptured out of here in the twinkling of an eye. Everyone knows if that happens, it will be total chaos, especially in the United States.
Then the anti-christ comes on the scene and he has all the answers and everyone will fall for him hook line and sinker. He makes a 7 year peace treaty with Israel and that will kick off the 7 year tribulation period.
So now Israel feels safe and will probably disband its military. Russia and the others know that what is left of the US is still a concern for them. So they launch their missiles (the ones that were and are at this time still aimed at the US) to destroy the US. Our military will still be operating and still have some power as all Americians will not be raptured. The US sees these missiles coming and launch what we have aimed at Russian (were and still are aimed). The US will still have submarines out there and will have the ability to launch Nuclear missiles. This explains the verse in Ezekiel (39:6) about Gog's homeland being destroyed. What was left of the US will be completly destroyed and that will open up this invasion on Israel by Russia, Iran, Turkey and the others.
But again, God will turn their weapons on each other and kill all but one sixth and then you can pick up at Ezekiel 39: 12-16.
Just some thoughts on what could happen. I am not predicting any of this, just look at the countries involved and then watch the news.
Brother you have a mix batch of prophecies, things that have already happened you are transporting them to the future by Ignoring Jewish History is the only way you can do that, China may have 200 million, but that doesn't mean China is going to leave their homeland undefended and take a trip through mountains which are impassable so that Prophecy is ambiguous at best, the prophecy read in Hebrew cannot reach that number, in other words that number was not in the Hebrew language at the time it was written, so more like 200 thousand is the correct translation, but I know a lot of fear have being sold by Western theologians in books.
Giving up weapons for Israel will never happen friend, I can assure you as a Coronel of the IDF that is just fantasy on your part.
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
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What part of Ezekiel 38 and 39 have already happened?
Huh ? Didn't said this might be the beginning of it, Ezequiel 38-39 is the last prophecy not fulfilled yet about Israel.
A lot of stuff you are transferring to the future has already happened, and most Christian theologians , give all attributes and deeds to one Antichrist at the end which is not so, Even John Said the 666 mark was Neron Cesar and Bible teachers have us believe we are going to be marked with that number at the end.
Etc Etc etc.
John Also said there were many Antichrists, we are at war right now with the Last Antichrist, The False Prophet, if you haven't realize that, open your eyes brother and witness to all you come in contact with, we might not be here next week.
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
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Israel "The Patsy"
