Much can be learned about an individual from his attitude, the way he approachs life, and the things that he hold most dear unto his heart. At a time when one is commanded to love the Lord his God, with ALL of his heart, ALL of his mind, and ALL of his strength, The church is overwhelmed with the lukewarmness and unconcern of those who profess their unwaivering love for God.
The word of God no longer means what is says. Commandments have become suggestions. Ordinances have become options ect. Sin has become the normal for those who profess to be in the body of Christ. The Holy God now is claimed to abide with-in the un-holiest of hearts. Every man does that which is right in his own eyes. There is none that seeketh righteousness, no not one.
Daniel 9:2 I Daniel understood by books the number of the years, whereof The Word of The Lord came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.
Though Daniel was Prime Minister of the Kingdom and cumbered about with much more than any of us today, he failed not to take advantage of the time to study the word of The Lord, spoken through the prophets. The prophesy was of utmost importance to Daniel. He could have taken the attitude of those today and said, it will happen however God wants, so no need for me to study it! God will speak to me in someother way if he wants me to know the prophesy, so I will not waste my time on study of such things. Prophecy is a source of division among brethern. Though Daniel was for a time, comtempary with Jeremiah, the prophesy was so important to Daniel that he took a copy of the prophesy with him into the captivity. Though Daniel was the great prophet that he was, he never got to big to listen to what God had to say unto another.
V:3 And I set my face unto the Lord God, to seek BY PRAYER and SUPPLICATIONS, with FASTING, and SACKCLOTH, and ASHES.
Daniel wasn't sitting around, copying and pasteing someone else and their efforts.
Because God had spoken it, it had not released Daniel from the responsibility of beseeching God for the fulfillment of his word. God had promised to release his people at the end of the 70 years, and God cannot fail!! The prophesy would stand, and come to pass as spoken. Daniel could have said, I will not concern myself with this, I will go hunting, fishing, watch BSU beat up on Miami, ect. Instead he sought God earnestly for an understanding of the word of God.
This is very likely the very reason Daniel was thrown into the den of lions. He was willing to pay any price just to find the truth!!
The flood of copy and paste articles today isn't a search for truth, but rather a setting forth of ones openions and views. It is a crossing of land and sea to make a convert, that will become two fold more the child of Hell than before his conversion.
Regardless of the unrighteous law of man, Daniel continued to open his window toward Jerusalem three times a day, with prayer, fasting, sackcloth, ashes, supplications, ect.
V4 And I prayed unto the Lord my God and made my CONFESSION, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that LOVE him, and to THEM THAT KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. One who reads this prayer and is unmoved, is dangerously close to crossing into that place refered to as, "past feeling". GOD NEVER FAILS!! It wasn't any failure on Gods part to execute not to fulfill any of his great and precious promises. It was totally the sins of the people that resulted in their captivity. V5-14
Brethern, It is time for a full, and heart broken confession of the many sins that has been allowed, justified, permitted, sanctioned, overlooked ect. in our hearts today and return unto the Holy, Righteous, almighty God of the Bible. Return unto his righteous way, and keep his Holy commandments, confess and forsake our ungodly and sinful ways and return unto the strait and narrow pathway. Stand in the way and see and ask for the old paths wherein is the good way and WALK therein.
Good Article, but if Copying and paste is a sin we are all going to hades in a basket ,LOL
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
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KB; I am not anti cut and paste.Sometimes I think we use it as a substitute instead of seeking God for the truth. It is sometimes like the & sons of Scieva, I adjure thee in the name of Jesus whom Paul preacheth. Salvation cannot be based upon anothers experience, or doctrine. It must become a personal walk with God.
KB; I am not anti cut and paste.Sometimes I think we use it as a substitute instead of seeking God for the truth. It is sometimes like the & sons of Scieva, I adjure thee in the name of Jesus whom Paul preacheth. Salvation cannot be based upon anothers experience, or doctrine. It must become a personal walk with God.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.
Chapter 9:24 seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and the prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Remember what was spoken unto Daniel in the former vision. "I am come to show thee;" "concider the vision", "make this man to understand the vision". That same messanger now says, "I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding".
Lets look at something that goes hand in hand with receiving understanding and the knowledge of God.
The Angel declared of Daniel, "For thou art greatly beloved". Of all the creation of God in heaven and on earth, of Daniel it is said, thou art greatly beloved. Of Abraham it was said, He was the "friend of God". Enoch had it spoken of him,that He walked with God.
We to could be called friends of God! We could have it said of us that we walked with God! We can be called and proclaimed that WE are greatly beloved of God!!. What was the common thread?? They had a love for Gods Truth that would not let them rest! A hunger and thirst for the knowledge of God that couldn't be quenched or satisfied. They were not content to remain in darkness and ignorance of Gods truths that were so freely given to those who would seek, ask, and knock. While others were willingly ignorant and content with just being able to say, I am of the seed of Abraham, these things were not said. Neither will it be said of this generation who are content with the crumbs that fall from the table. If any man hear and open unto me, I will come in and "sup" with him, and he with me. I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a son. One can be a crumb snatcher if that is what his desire is, However Jesus has the table spread, where the saints of God are fed, and he invited his choosen people, come and dine!! There is a place for you at the masters table--Come and dine!!
This is more than crackers and grape juice!!
At the ending of chapter 8 we see that Daniel still didn't understand all about what he had see. What didn't Daniel understand? Four prominant things mentioned in the "Vision", 1. The Ram, 2. The he-Goat, 3 The Little Horn, 4 The 2300 days. The Ram, He-Goat, and the little Horn were explained, however nothing was said of the 2300 days time period. This must have been what he didn't understand, and the other three componants of the vision were obscure without the understanding of the time frame. So where does the messenger start his explaination unto Daniel? With the timing. Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and thy holy city. Determined here denotes, "cut off" "taken from". Cut off from what?? The angel was directing Daniel in the interpretation of the former "Vision". Can this speak of anything other than of the 2300 days? If the events of this period are accurately fulfilled, the vision is of God and will ALL be accomplished. Remember, we saw how that the earthly sanctuary gave way unto the heavenly Tabernacle that God pitched. With this also was transfered the priesthood from the earthly unto the heavenly. We have such an high priest in the heavenlys!! Before the functioning if this Tabernacle, there was to be first an anointing and cleasning of the Holy Vessels. Therefore this first division of the 2300 days brings us unto the commencement of the service in the first compartment, and the whole total years brings un unto the commencement of the functioning of the second compartment, or the most Holy Place, of that Heavenly sanctuary.
Come on fellows, I'm presenting this not only for your concideration, but to receive your imput into the mix. That we all may come to a more complete knowledge of the thing and events that were deemed worthy by God to be placed into his great book of knowledge, The Bible. I'm sure I am not the only one who has studied the book of Daniel and seeks to know the truth of the matter.
It is my contention that the understanding of "The True Tabernacle in Heaven", and its functions is of utmost importance as all others were made from its pattern and example. Thy will be done on earth AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.
The followers of Paul should understand this "mystery" clearly as Paul was said to have heen caught up into heaven and surely would have gotten a glimps of something so important and beautiful as Our high Priest in HIS true temple.
It is appearent to me that the decree of Ezra in the seventh of Artaxerxes, B.C. 457, is the point to date the 70 weeks. Two preparatory decrees went forth and was concidered part of the one great whole issued. Ezra 6:14 And they builded, and finished it, according to the commands of the God of Israel, and according to the commandment (singular) of Cryus, and Darius, and Artexerxes, King of Persia. All three spoken of as one degree. The decrees being the steps in which the work was done. This point was reached in the grant given unto Erza, but not before. Here the decree assumed the preportions, covered the ground, demanded by the prophecy, and therefore must be reckoned from this point.
The 70 weeks is but the first of the 2300 days. From Ezra's decree, 457 B.C., 49 years were building the walls ect. bringing us to 408 B.C. Using the same measuring stick, 69 weeks, or 483 years were to extend unto Messiah the Prince, brings us unto A.D. 27. What great event occured in 27 A.D.? Luke 3:21-22 sets forth Jesus baptism by John Baptist, the accending dove, ect. After this Jesus came preaching the gospel of the Kingdom of God and saying, "the time is fulfilled". The time must be referring to the 69 weeks spoken of by Daniel saying unto Messiah the Prince. Messiah was to confirm the covanant for one week, or the last of the seventy weeks total prophesied. In the midst of the week, or middle of the week, he would cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease, pointing to the death of Christ upon the cross. The crucifixion therefore was in the middle of the 69th week. Jesus began his ministry in A.D. 27 and kept every passover, (recorded in scripture) the first in the spring of A.D. 28, the 2nd, A.D. 29, the 3rd A.D. 30, and the 4th and final Passover in A.D. 31. Three and 1/2 days, or the midst of the week. At that time darkness covered the whole land, not as an eclipse, but remained dark for a total of three hours. No solar eclipse was possible at that time, according to astrology. Going forward another three and 1/2 years we complete the 70 weeks with this event. The martydom of Stephen, the formal rejection of the gospel of Christ by the Jewish Sanhedrin, and the turning of the Apostles unto the gentiles.
KB; Salvation cannot be based upon anothers experience, or doctrine. It must become a personal walk with God.
I am a little confused about that statement.. How can You or I say exactly, other than maybe grace,how God will come to a person. if you are correct you may as well toss that computer and just crawl off in a corner and read your Bible. if you believe that why join the discussions on Religious forum.
Daniel 9:24 "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Now let's explain that verse: "Seventy weeks (that is seventy weeks of years. And some of your newer translations have already put it into 490. So 490 years) are determined upon (who?) thy people (now who were Daniel's people? Israel, the Jew and upon thy holy city (the city of Jerusalem.), to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity,..."
Now that was all accomplished in the work of the Cross. That was where Satan was utterly defeated. "...to make reconciliation for iniquity (that comma represents nearly a 2000 year time span), and to bring in everlasting righteousness,..."
That hasn't happened yet. That is the Kingdom. And the Kingdom of course, has by no way or stretch of the imagination, come on the scene. All of these Old Testament prophecies are in a continuous flow from the time of Abraham, until the coming of the King and the Kingdom.
In other words, the first thing that He told Abraham is that, "430 years he would sojourn, and then the nation would be brought back to Himself." And it was exactly 430 years to the day just as God had said.
Now always get the time frame. Jeremiah had prophesied that the nation of Israel would go into captivity for 70 years. Every seventh year, while they were in the land of promise, they were to have left it fallow. They were supposed to let it rest. But what did they do? They kept right on farming it. And after 490 years of neglecting that sabbatical year, God says, "I'm going to get my seventy years of sabbaticals." So they were sent into that captivity in Babylon for seventy years and the land laid rest. Now of course it wasn't just because of their neglecting the sabbatical, it was also they had gone into idolatry and had rejected Jehovah and so forth. But primarily the seventy years was to make up for the one out of every seven, out of 490 years of time.
With Daniel we have a prophesy concerning 490 years from a particular time, which of course, will be after the Babylonian captivity, which took place. Nebuchadnezzar came over to Israel in 606 B.C. and took Daniel and all the Jews, captive back to Babylon. And then as that 70 years elapsed that they were to be in captivity; that brings us to 536 B.C., when Ezra goes back, by the decree of Cyrus to rebuild the Temple, which Nebuchadnezzar's force had utterly destroyed. About 90 years later, Nehemiah writes in Chapter 2 of that Book, about a decree by another king: that now the Jews can go back to Jerusalem, not to rebuild the temple, because that had already been done by Ezra.
But now they were to go back and rebuild the city wall and the gates, because in antiquities, that was their main line of defense for safety. And from that decree until the crucifixion was a period within this 490 year time frame, but it was 483 years instead of 490. So from that decree of Daniel Chapter 9 then, until Christ was cut off was 483 years. That left seven to make the 490. The seven-year period of time that we now know is still future and that is the final seven years of the Tribulation.
Sarge, I see you are not buying the time frame that I laid out in post #6. Lets assume that I am incorrect in my time frame. Explain where I missed it concerning the fullfilling of the 70th week. Was not the 70 weeks, the first first 490 years of the "vision" which was declared to be 2300 days? We are now, IMO in the last days, latter days, time of the end, ect. Now, and not another 1810 days after the tribulation is half over. Take my time frame and discect it step by step and lets discuss the errors one at a time, and get the corrections made so that all will fit together correctly.
Originally Posted by Snooky KB; Salvation cannot be based upon anothers experience, or doctrine. It must become a personal walk with God.
I am a little confused about that statement.. How can You or I say exactly, other than maybe grace,how God will come to a person. if you are correct you may as well toss that computer and just crawl off in a corner and read your Bible. if you believe that why join the discussions on Religious forum.
Denny, Is it that statement that brings the confusion? How could a bible believer think that the life someone else lives, will possibly save, him if he lacks the grace to live that life for himself? Should we all elect one to live the christian life for the rest of mankind?
I've been baptised in Jesus name, does my baptism remitt the sins of "Denny". If Denny is born again, does that mean that Snooky is also born again? Isn't it scriptural to say that a man is judged by his OWN works, wheather they be good or evil? Isn't salvation a personal relationship between a man and his God?
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