Did Paul receive his doctrines from the other apostles or directly from the Lord?
In Galatians 1:11-12 Paul wrote, "But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ." Continuing in Galatians 1:15-17 he added, "But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen (the Gentiles); immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood: Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus." So here Paul makes it very clear that his gospel came to him through direct revelation from the ascended Lord Jesus Christ. It did not come from the other Apostles or any other person. I often hear people say, "I go by what Jesus said, not by what Paul said." The problem with that reasoning is that Paul's teachings did come from Jesus, after the Lord had ascended to heaven. So if they are not going by Paul's teaching, then they are not going by Jesus Christ's teaching.
Paul speaks more on the revelations that he received form the Lord in 2 Corinthians 12:1-7, "It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord.I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth such an one caught up to the third heaven. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knowethHow that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities. For though I would desire to glory, I shall not be a fool; for I will say the truth: but now I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth me to be, or that he heareth of me. And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure." Here we see that there were a great many revelations from the Lord that Paul received over a long period of time.
Also in Ephesians 3:1-4 Paul wrote, "For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) ...."
Peter also recognized and wrote about the wisdom that God had revealed to Paul. In 2 Peter 3:15-16 he says, "And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood ...."
Our Apostle Paul's teachings come from the ascended Lord Jesus Christ in heaven, not from man.
Read the book Sarge, Where did the Apostles receive their doctrine? Luke 24:44 says Jesus opened their understanding that they might understand ALL that was written in the scriptures concerning him. Who opened their minds to the revelation of Himself? JESUS did. Paul didn't even know the name of The Lord, he had to ask, Who art thou Lord? The Apostles had the understanding already!! He that readeth, let him understand.
Our Apostle Paul's teachings come from the ascended Lord Jesus Christ in heaven, not from man.
Paul had this to say about the one who opened the Apostles understanding and gave them their doctrine, which is the same doctrine given Paul. Paul recognized him as God manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of anlels, preached unto the gentiles, believed on in the world, and received up into Glory. Read the book, one gospel, one doctrine, from the same God--Jesus. The fulfilment of Isaiah chapter 9:6 The only wise God, our Savior. The way, the truth, and the life.
John 17:17-22 Santify them through thy truth, thy word is truth. 18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakess I santify myself, that they also might be santified through the truth, 20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word.
Those who are of Paul and not Jesus don't like it, but that is what is written in the book.
Paul himself warned about preaching any other gospel than what had alread been preached, as there is no other true gospel. Read the book.
Yes Paul's understanding was opened up and he learned the Word of God from the Word of God. This is how you , I and everyone else are supposed to also! Only 1 problem with that! People are not willing to turn away from their sin to truely find him!
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Yes Paul's understanding was opened up and he learned the Word of God from the Word of God. This is how you , I and everyone else are supposed to also! Only 1 problem with that! People are not willing to turn away from their sin to truely find him!
Amen, brother!
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Jesus said, "he who stands firm to the end will be saved" Mark 13:13.
Live Life in such a way that those who do not know Christ will come to know Him because they know you
AMEN Bro Ray. Was just thinking about you my friend. Hope all is well.
If WE would only allow God to deal with the sin problem within, instead of trying to make God conform to our sinful lifestyle. There wouldn't be any contention or division among brethern. We could, and would, all speek the same thing and see as the scriptures declare, "eye to eye".
There wouldn't be any contention or division among brethern. We could, and would, all speek the same thing and see as the scriptures declare, "eye to eye".
That would be nice, but look at how many denominations would be out of business.. and trust me, most of them are a business, and such a shame too.
Here is my Beef with Paul.
Paul Taught the LAw was Done away with, Yet Jesus said
If anyone Dissobeys the law and teaches others not to keep the commandment, he will be very small in the Kingdom.
also
But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments” (Matthew 19:17).
Now Pardon me if I lesten To Christ and not Paul or Darby.
Shalom
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
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Paul very much taught we must keep the law. He even teaches that gentiles keep the law which written on their hearts. His teachings are sometimes hard to understand. He talks of the law of moses and the law of God. We do not keep the law of Moses because it cant clean the inside of us. It only washes the outside of a man.
Rom 2:13For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.
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Elm River Hunt Club
Wayne County Illinois
www.illinoisdeerhunters.com
Paul very much taught we must keep the law. He even teaches that gentiles keep the law which written on their hearts. His teachings are sometimes hard to understand. He talks of the law of moses and the law of God. We do not keep the law of Moses because it cant clean the inside of us. It only washes the outside of a man.
Rom 2:13For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.
Didn't he also say ?
Ephesians 2;15
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
He says not only that Christ "abolished" the law (Eph 2:15), but also that He "establishes" it (Rom 3:31); not only that "we are discharged from the law" (Rom 7:6) about also that "the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and just and good" (Rom 7:12); not only that "a man is justified by faith apart from the law" (Rom 3:28) but also that "neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of God" (1 Cor 7:19).
Three times Paul states: "neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision" and each time he concludes this statement with a different phrase: "but keeping the commandments of God . . .but faith working through love . . . but a new creation" (1 Cor 7:19; Gal 5:6; 6:15).
Sorry but If I had a Pastor that Ramble as much as Paul , I would walk out of that church.
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
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