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Old 09-06-2009, 06:32 PM   #1
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Many have been taught the great blunder of mixing law and grace, which mixture produces a perverted gospel which subverts the soul. But the great blunder, to which we refer, which includes frustrating the grace of god by bringing into the reign of grace some of Israel's program from under the reign of the law, goes far beyond that. Many spiritual "grace" preachers, who would never intentionally mix law and grace, do mix the "kingdom of heaven" program, in the synoptic gospels and in the book of acts, with the program designated "the dispensation of god." They also failed to rightly divide the word of truth as to the different ministries of Peter and Paul, as stated in Galatians 2:7 to 9.


It must be obvious to anyone who gives the matter even a little thoughtful consideration, that plenty of blunders have been made to bring about the present condition in Christendom, with the Christian Church divided into more than two hundred sects and factions, preaching messages that differ in many points, and carrying on many different spiritual programs. In as much as the Lord Jesus Christ was, and is omniscient, He is not surprised at the confusion, rivalry, competition and controversies in his divided Church; but surely it must grieve Him. According to His own words, "a house divided against itself cannot stand.”Matthew 12:25. Therefore, the visible church organizations are doomed to an awful fall. We thank our Heavenly Father that there are on earth, and in heaven, many sinners are saved by grace, who are joined to the Lord Jesus in an eternal inseparable union, members of the one body mentioned in Ephesians 4:4 and described in Paul’s epistles . This the true Church will be salvaged out of the wreck and ruin of Christendom.

Any Christian or Bible reader, does not see in the scripture the fact that there is but one Church of Christ in this particular "grace" period in which we live, and in which men have lived for nearly 1900 years, must be incurably stupid. Hear God's plain statement:"there is one body." Ephesians 4:4.

Romans 12:4 and 5


"For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another."


Yes, God has but one true Bible Church in this particular age of grace, and the one Head of the one Body is the Lord Jesus Christ, the glorified Son of God in heaven.


1 Corinthians 12:13


"For by one Spirit are we all BAPTIZED into one Body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit."


Ephesians 2:15


"Having abolished in His flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in Himself of twain ONE NEW MAN, so making peace."


"One Body". "One New Man"... "Christ and His Church one Flesh." "Ephesians 5:30 and 31.


We repeat that the one and only Head of the one True Body (Church) is the Lord Jesus Christ Who is in the heavens. Ephesians 1:19 to 22. In striving to emerge from the dark ages denominationalism undoubtedly has been unavoidable. In some instance it has safeguarded weak and ignorant Christians. But surely it has been the trick of Satan to cover up the glorious truths in God's Book concerning the hope, calling, program and destiny of then one true Bible Church which is the Body of Christ.


In speaking of the sad spectacle of the Church on earth, so hopelessly divided that nothing but the coming of Christ can ever bring His saints together, we are not referring to the division known as "Roman Catholicism" and "Protestantism." The Romanist claim over two hundred million adherents. They are so completely Judaized that the communicants have to be saved in spite of the perverted doctrines and unscriptural practices included in heir ritualistic religion. There is utterly no hop for them except as the individual Romanist is delivered by the gospel of the grace of God from his mixture of Judaism, Christianity and paganism.


The ritualism of Romanism came as a result of that which began in the day of the apostles. Read the issue of the Jerusalem council, in Acts 15, and note the question in Acts 15:10 and decision of that council in Acts 15:24 to 29. We quote the question:


Acts 15:10


"Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?"


Then note the words from the Holy Spirit by the pen of Paul:"A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump." Galatians 5:9. The ritualism, fanaticism, religious legalism and "salvation by works" movements in Christendom have come as a result of the leaven of Judaism, mixing Israel's program into the "grace" program which the risen Christ gave to Paul.


Paul speaks of himself, in the first person pronoun, about 1,200 times in the Bible. He had a most unique ministry, as he had a unique conversion and very special dispensations. Note these words:


Ephesians 3:1 and 2


"For this cause, I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to youward."

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Old 09-06-2009, 06:33 PM   #2
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For several centuries Christians have been emerging from the corrupted Christianity of the dark ages and the progress has been very slow. Christians, trying to escape from one religious blunder, have gone into another and denominationalism and tradition have much retarded the recovery of "Body" truth, and hindered in the matter of obeying 2 Timothy 2"15 for the intelligent, Scriptural selection of God's spiritual program for members of the Body of Christ, so that members might walk worthy of the calling wherewith they are called. Ephesians 4:1.
Virtually every group, assembly or organization of Evangelical Christians as incorporated in its Church creeds and instructed its members to practice, something Israelitish; something of religion which the Lord never intended for the period of grace. The selection from the Bible of that which belongs to God's spiritual program and the rejection of that which does not belong is sometimes no easy task. But surely God has some intelligent Scriptural principle, in obedience to 2 Timothy 2:15, by which the Spirit-taught students of the Scriptures may know how to appropriate and apply the Scriptures to walk well pleasing unto the Lord.
Quite frequently the members of one denomination, who have their established denominational program, are ungraciously intolerant with the members of another denomination, whose denominational creed and practices differ in some details, even thought the members of both denominations may agree as to the inspiration of the Scriptures, the eternal Deity of Lord Jesus Christ, salvation by faith in Christ's redemptive work and in other fundamental doctrines.
We shall not have time to go into all these details; but surely our reader will agree with us that, because of traditions and fears of men, nearly every organized group of Christians has arbitrarily, promiscuously, and capriciously selected, from the Four Gospels, the Psalms and the Book of Acts, some of the messages and program of Israel which has no rightful place in the Body of Christ. From the earthly ministry of Christ and His apostles, and from the Church of the "Acts" period, they have selected or rejected such of those religious programs as seemeth good to them without apology, or explanation, or intelligent Scriptural exegesis, and nearly one hundred percent o them have, intentionally, or unintentionally, carried over something that rightly belonged to Israel's God given program, but which has no place in God's spiritual program for the Body of the mystery, "Ephesians 3:9.
The Great Blunder has resulted from many blunders. We name several of them. Men of God have taught that the Old Covenant began with the first chapter of Genesis and that the New Covenant began with the first chapter of Matthew. They have not learned that there is not one statement concerning the Old Covenant in the Book of Genesis, because the Covenant of Sinai, made "Old" by the death of Christ, was not given until Exodus 20. Christian men seem to have forgotten that the Nation Israel had its beginning about 1800 years before Christ and that the people who lived before Jacob's name was changed to Israel, were not Israelites. They have failed to note, and thereby be governed in their Church creeds, the division God mentions in Romans 5:13 and 14, and Galatians 3:19 "From Adam to Moses when there was no law (no Old Covenant)" and "the law (Old Covenant) was added to the Abrahamic covenant until Abraham's Seed ( Christ ) came."
Christian men apparently have failed to note that both the Old Covenant and the New Covenant were Israelitish. Jeremiah 31:31 to 37.
Many Christian preachers have preached to God's people, under grace, in the body of Christ, the earthly kingdom promises, made to Israel, belonging to an entirely different dispensation. Christians have for centuries been taught that Abel, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Daniel, John the Baptist, Peter and Paul all belonged to the same Church. Their preachers and teachers have failed to differentiate between Jesus of Nazareth in the mist of Israel in Palestine, Paul's mystery, "Christ in you the hope of glory." Acts 2:22 and Colossians 1:24 to 27. Many of them have overlooked the fact that Jesus on earth was Israel's minister of the circumcision, sent only to Israel, made under the law to redeem Israel. Romans 15:8, Matthew 15:24; Galatians 4:4 and 5. Many of them have failed to recognize the period of the Book of Acts, the place of Israel in the Book of Acts, and the very important truth of Galatians 2:7 to 9. We quote these verses:
Galatians 2:7 to 9
"But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me (Paul), as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter:
(For He that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same in me toward the Gentiles);
And when James, Cephas and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision."


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Old 09-07-2009, 04:32 AM   #3
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Nicely said. it is obvious to me that you have been fully indoctrinated into the body of Christ. I might add you have found a home amongst friends.
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Old 09-07-2009, 10:13 AM   #4
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Nicely said. it is obvious to me that you have been fully indoctrinated into the body of Christ. I might add you have found a home amongst friends.
It wasnt said at all. It was copied and pasted as all his post. Not from his heart learned of God. But learned of man! A true perversion of the Gospel.
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Old 09-07-2009, 11:36 AM   #5
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Funny thing is, all these "blunders" make perfect sense when viewed through the spectrum of Roman Catholicism. The reason why so many protestant sects are at such odds with eachother & the Church herself is due to the omissions & additions made to Gutenberg's Bible. Although most protestants are taught otherwise (& typically can't be told differently), Catholicism is more scripturally based than any other "sect" out there. And, yes, this includes all the prayers, praying to saints, the Body & Blood of Jesus Christ, etc...

I shall now sit back & enjoy the fireworks.
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:34 PM   #6
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Of Course a Christianity Without Israel is Just Another Cult, even if you quote the entire New Testament, we see that with such Cults as SDA , JW, Jim Jones, David Koresh,And Darbynism.
Fact is without The Law you ain't no Christian at all.

Recently someone asked why his church teaches that “the law is done away, was a burden for the people to keep and was nailed to the cross,”
Nowhere does the Bible teach that the Ten Commandments are “done away.” The apostles did teach that the Old Testament system of animal sacrifices was replaced by the sacrifice of Christ, but they continued to teach and practice all things Christ taught. One of those plain teaching of Jesus is: “But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments” (Matthew 19:17).
Some conclude that the Apostle Paul taught against commandment keeping, but as Peter said, many have misunderstood some things Paul wrote: “as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures” (2 Peter 3:16). Paul never contradicted Jesus by teaching commandment breaking.
Some refer to Acts 15 and claim it does away with the necessity to keep the law of God, but it says no such thing. The subject under discussion in Acts 15 was: if circumcision is necessary; not whether the commandments were “done away.” Later Paul, in a letter to uncircumcised Gentile Christians said, “Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters” (1 Corinthians 7:19). Even the Apostle to the Gentiles taught commandment keeping!
Paul also said, “for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified” (Romans 2:13). We are justified to God by Christ having paid the penalty for our past sins, but the Bible teaches that we should become diligent in keeping the commandments and sin no more.
I repeat with Paul, “Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters” (1 Corinthians 7:19). This includes even the fourth commandment, “Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God” (Exodus 20:9–10). Paul kept the seventh day Sabbath and taught non-Jews on the Sabbath, “So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath…On the next Sabbath almost the whole (Gentile!) city came together to hear the word of God” (Acts 13:42, 44).
Christians are not permitted to omit any of the Ten Commandments. The Apostle James, said, “For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all” (James 2:10).
Pardon me for pointing this out, but it seems that those who argue against obeying God’s law may be trying to free themselves from having to obey God. If they are looking for an excuse to get around the plain teaching of the Bible, I am sure they will find one. But to receive the Holy Spirit and become a Christian, we must begin to obey God: “And we are His witnesses to these things, and so also is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey Him” (Acts 5:32).
If we truly love God, we will begin keeping His commandments, “For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome” (1 John 5:3).
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"Many have been taught the great blunder of mixing law and grace, which mixture produces a perverted gospel"

Jesus taught this "Blundering Gospel"..which is really no blundering gospel at all ..when he ministered to the women caught in the very act of adultury...God's Grace saved her from being stoned..and then Jesus tells her "Go and sin no more." This gospel has not changed..it's the same today..His kindness draws us to repentance..and 1 john 3 tells us.."And they that have this hope in themselves keep thierselves pure."
The law of the Spirit is obedience ...A disobedient faith is a "Dead faith" according to James There is no blundering gospel..
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"Many have been taught the great blunder of mixing law and grace, which mixture produces a perverted gospel"

Jesus taught this "Blundering Gospel"..which is really no blundering gospel at all ..when he ministered to the women caught in the very act of adultury...God's Grace saved her from being stoned..and then Jesus tells her "Go and sin no more." This gospel has not changed..it's the same today..His kindness draws us to repentance..and 1 john 3 tells us.."And they that have this hope in themselves keep thierselves pure."
The law of the Spirit is obedience ...A disobedient faith is a "Dead faith" according to James There is no blundering gospel..
Wow ! Brother the Spirit of God just spoke through you, Shalom
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Old 09-07-2009, 04:42 PM   #10
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It wasnt said at all. It was copied and pasted as all his post. Not from his heart learned of God. But learned of man! A true perversion of the Gospel.
Why not copy and paste, we can all learn. And I can assure you, I know the Gospel by which I am saved.

I saw on another post that you agreed with the teaching of Paul. Now what do you not like?
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