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Old 07-30-2009, 12:44 PM   #1
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The word foundation has a dictionary defination as follows; 1. Part upon which the other parts rest for support; base.
2. Basis; ground.
3. A founding or establishing.
4. Being founded or established.

It is commonly claimed by the christian churches that they are all founded upon the same biblical blueprint, and all believe on the diety set forth in the scriptures, YET none can agree upon who he is, what he is, what his name is, how to enter his Kingdom, or govern and oversee his Church. All claim salvation, but offer different means and ways to become saved. There is no agreement upon "The things that accompany" salvation.
Could the division be due to failure to find the blueprint for the foundation, and laying the scriptural foundation required before shingling the roof??
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone.
1 Cor 3:11 For no other foundation can be laid than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
John 7:38 He that believeth on ME as the scripture HATH said.
Here is a key to understanding. Believing upon Jesus Christ as the scripture hath said, before there was any New Testament writings!
Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those of Thessalonica, in that thet received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily to see whether those things were so.
Again, these scriptures were Old Testament scriptures, as there was no New Testament yet written.
Ro 16:25 Now to him that is of power to establish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, V26 But is now made manifest by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God.
I have said that to say this; Most christians, so-called, has no knowledge of the Old Testament at all. Gal 3:24 plainly declared that the Law, (Old Testament) was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ. How then can one come unto Christ without a working knowledge of the teachings of the schoolmaster?
Is it any wonder that the churches are so scattered and divided?? IMO One cannot know the Christ of the New Testament, until he meets the Jesus of The Old Testament. The old Testament is where the foundation is laid! All the types, shadows, figures and examples, ect. Also known as the blueprint, or the foundation upon which we in the New Testament are to build.
Salvation though the blood of the Lamb has been taught since the fall of man in the garden. Taught under the faith of Abraham, srtengthed under the Law, sang of in the Psalms, prophesied of by the Prophets.
The New Testament is the finishing touches upon the house. Before you hang the cabinets, tile the counter tops, and paint the trim, it would be wise to go take another look at the foundation upon which you have built. A wise man digs down and builds his house upon a rock. Jesus Christ, the Rock of Our salvation.
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Old 07-31-2009, 02:40 AM   #2
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34 Do not think I came to put peace upon the earth; I came to put, not peace, but a sword. 35 For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a young wife against her mother-in-law.
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34 Do not think I came to put peace upon the earth; I came to put, not peace, but a sword. 35 For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a young wife against her mother-in-law.
This doesn't say division of the Church and o here lays the problem, misinterpreting and twisting of the word by Man's institutions and not being Led by the Spirit of God.
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This doesn't say division of the Church and o here lays the problem, misinterpreting and twisting of the word by Man's institutions and not being Led by the Spirit of God.
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This doesn't say division of the Church and o here lays the problem, misinterpreting and twisting of the word by Man's institutions and not being Led by the Spirit of God.

Bulls eye Brother!!
The biblical truth is; There was no division at all in the church for the first 4 chapters of the Book of Acts. Every member continued steadfastly in the Apostles Doctrine, (God's doctrine doesn't cause division, FALSE doctrine causes division). Following the way that seems right in the carnal eyes of man brought the first record of rebellion in the New Testament Church. Death was the result then and death remains the result today.
Some of you brethern correct me if what I am about to say isn't scriptural.
One cannot walk in the Spirit unless he is on the proper foundation. One can only stray when he leaves the one and only foundation given.
One must be born again of The Spirit, have the mind of the Spirit, live in the Spirit, walk in the Spirit, be filled with the Spirit, OR he will fulfill the lust of the flesh. He will return to the sinful lust and works of the flesh. One who walks after the flesh cannot be saved as he isn't built upon the true foundation which has already been laid.
The true foundation was laid out for us long before the New Testament church came into existance, in the types and shadows, figures, examples, ect. and was written for our admonition. To bring us unto Christ. Christ is the door, if any man come up any other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
We MUST find the foundation before we start building the house.
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34 Do not think I came to put peace upon the earth; I came to put, not peace, but a sword. 35 For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a young wife against her mother-in-law.
Sounds pretty clear to me. He came to start war and cause division amongst people. Is there another way to interpret that?
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This doesn't say division of the Church and o here lays the problem, misinterpreting and twisting of the word by Man's institutions and not being Led by the Spirit of God.
If you look at the other versus along with this scripture it covers a broad spectrum of people not just family. Jesus uses family as an example. If you dont fully commit yourselves to Jesus and lay your worldly life down you will not know him. If you mix those who are fully committed and walk in the truth with those who talk the talk you will have division because light cannot have fellowship with darkness. This is not just limited to your household. The Word also tells us a house divided against itself will not stand. So all these Churches who argue over who is right will all fall and be shown for what they are. Gods true Church is of the Spirit! Not worldly knowledge, doctrine and walls built by men! Gods church is in perfect unity and is not divided. It is made perfect through Christ.

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Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

Mar 3:25If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
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Gods church is in perfect unity and is not divided. It is made perfect through Christ.

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