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Old 05-15-2009, 11:47 AM   #1
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I think folks on here probably think I am crazy when they view my comments about the Gospel of Grace and the Gospel of the Kingdom.

But, I want everyone to search the four gospels and tell me if you see anything mentioned about the Body of Christ as spoken of by the Apostle Paul. Also search for any mention of the rapture.

The Body of Christ and the rapture is only found in Paul's espitles. Do we throw this part of the bible out? NO. But I think we have to apply it as God intended.


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Old 05-15-2009, 12:46 PM   #2
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Jhn 14:3
And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.



Mat 12:49
Pointing to his disciples, he said, "Here are my mother and my brothers.



Mat 12:50
For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother."


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I think folks on here probably think I am crazy when they view my comments about the Gospel of Grace and the Gospel of the Kingdom.

But, I want everyone to search the four gospels and tell me if you see anything mentioned about the Body of Christ as spoken of by the Apostle Paul. Also search for any mention of the rapture.

The Body of Christ and the rapture is only found in Paul's espitles. Do we throw this part of the bible out? NO. But I think we have to apply it as God intended.

What Rapture are you referring to ?
As some believe pre-trib
Mid Trib
Post trib- Which one ?
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Now you fellows know that the word "rapture" isn't found, even in Pauls writings.
How does one get into the body? By raising ones hand? Saying a sinners prayer? Joining a church? Is there one plan for Jews, and another for Gentiles? 1 Cor 12:13
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Jhn 14:3
And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.



Mat 12:49
Pointing to his disciples, he said, "Here are my mother and my brothers.



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For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother."

Body of Christ?
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:09 AM   #6
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I think folks on here probably think I am crazy when they view my comments about the Gospel of Grace and the Gospel of the Kingdom.

But, I want everyone to search the four gospels and tell me if you see anything mentioned about the Body of Christ as spoken of by the Apostle Paul. Also search for any mention of the rapture.

The Body of Christ and the rapture is only found in Paul's espitles. Do we throw this part of the bible out? NO. But I think we have to apply it as God intended.

What Rapture are you referring to ?
As some believe pre-trib
Mid Trib
Post trib- Which one ?
Pre-trib.
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:14 AM   #7
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Now you fellows know that the word "rapture" isn't found, even in Pauls writings.
How does one get into the body? By raising ones hand? Saying a sinners prayer? Joining a church? By simply believing the gospel (ref I Corinthians 15: 1-4.) Is there one plan for Jews, and another for Gentiles? 1 Cor 12:13 Not during this age of grace, but after the Body of Christ is called out the 144,000 will be preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom during the tribulation. The same gospel that Jesus and the 12 preached.
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Jhn 14:3
And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.



Mat 12:49
Pointing to his disciples, he said, "Here are my mother and my brothers.



Mat 12:50
For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother."

Body of Christ?
Yes! Body of Christ.Jesus describes who is part of his family! Those who are obedient to the father.There is no talk as Paul describes the Body. John 14:3 Jesus definately talks of Jesus coming back and taking his to be with him.
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Old 05-17-2009, 03:41 PM   #9
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Jhn 14:3
And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.


Mat 12:49
Pointing to his disciples, he said, "Here are my mother and my brothers.



Mat 12:50
For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother."

Body of Christ?
Yes! Body of Christ.Jesus describes who is part of his family! Those who are obedient to the father.There is no talk as Paul describes the Body. John 14:3 Jesus definately talks of Jesus coming back and taking his to be with him.
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"Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2. In my Father"s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also." That"s not the Rapture. That"s God dealing with the Twelve. That"ll happen at His Second Coming.

And there are various other scriptures. "Two women grinding at the mill. One taken, the other left." How many people think that"s the Rapture? No. That"s not the Rapture. That"s God dealing with a couple of Jews. And if you really study the Scripture, the one that"s taken is not the believer. It"s the un-believer, and the believer is left to go into the Kingdom. "Two shall be sleeping in the bed. One taken and the other left." Well, which one is taken? The un-believer, because they cannot go into the Kingdom, only the believer can. But see how we can twist the Scriptures? But you just separate them likeand rightly divide the Word of God and everything gets just as plain as the noon-day sun.
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"Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2. In my Father"s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also." That"s not the Rapture. That"s God dealing with the Twelve. That"ll happen at His Second Coming.

Where is this Fathers House located? What is the preparation that remained to be done? The creation of the heavens and the earth were finished in Gen. Did Jesus say that the place prepared was the place he was then at?, And by his preparation, they (the eleven) would also be allowed there.
IMO the place Jesus was going to was Calvary. The preparation made was the death, burial, and ressurection, of Jesus, The Lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world. V:6 I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man (Jew or Gentile, whosoever will) cometh unto the Father, but by me. V16 And I will pray the Father and he shall send you another comforter. V18 I will not leave you comfortless, I will come unto you. V20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. Fulfilling the scripture, I will come again, and receive you unto myself.
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