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Old 01-20-2009, 06:40 PM   #1
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What is greed? There are many things that can be defined as greed. Here is a few that come to find. Working your way in the company. Growing a business you own. I am having a heard time with this right now.
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:05 PM   #2
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A person does not need to be rich to be greedy. Greed is never being satisfied and always wanting more. A greedy person also does not like to share their resources with others.

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Ecclesiastes 5
Fear God1[a](A) Guard your steps when you go to(B) the house of God. To draw near to listen is better than to(C) offer the sacrifice of fools, for they do not know that they are doing evil. 2[b] Be not rash with your mouth, nor let your heart be hasty to utter a word before God, for God is in heaven and you are on earth. Therefore(D) let your words be few. 3For a dream comes with much business, and a fool"™s voice with(E) many words.
4When(F) you vow a vow to God,(G) do not delay paying it, for he has no pleasure in fools.(H) Pay what you vow. 5(I) It is better that you should not vow than that you should vow and not pay. 6Let not your mouth lead you[c] into sin, and do not say before(J) the messenger[d] that it was(K) a mistake. Why should God be angry at your voice and destroy the work of your hands? 7For when dreams increase and words grow many, there is vanity;[e] but(L) God is the one you must fear.
The Vanity of Wealth and Honor8(M) If you see in a province the oppression of the poor and the violation of justice and righteousness,(N) do not be amazed at the matter,(O) for the high official is watched by a higher, and there are yet higher ones over them. 9But this is gain for a land in every way: a king committed to cultivated fields.[f]
10He who loves money will not be satisfied with money, nor he who loves wealth with his income; this also is vanity. 11When goods increase, they increase who eat them, and what advantage has their owner but to see them with his eyes? 12Sweet is the sleep of a laborer, whether he eats little or much, but the full stomach of the rich will not let him sleep.
13(P) There is a grievous evil that I have seen under the sun: riches were kept by their owner to his hurt, 14and those riches were lost in a bad venture. And he is father of a son, but he has nothing in his hand. 15(Q) As he came from his mother"™s womb he shall go again, naked as he came, and shall take nothing for his toil that he may carry away in his hand. 16This also is a grievous evil: just as he came, so shall he go, and what(R) gain is there to him who(S) toils for the wind? 17Moreover, all his days he(T) eats in darkness in much vexation and sickness and anger.
18Behold, what I have seen to be(U) good and fitting is to eat and drink and find enjoyment[g] in all the toil with which one toils under the sun the few days of his life that God has given him, for this is his(V) lot. 19Everyone also to whom(W) God has given(X) wealth and possessions(Y) and power to enjoy them, and to accept his lot and rejoice in his toil"”this is(Z) the gift of God. 20For he will not much remember the days of his life because God keeps him occupied with joy in his heart.
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:33 PM   #3
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Great job country1.

I would just like to add.

Fred, greed is asking for more than you can chew, greed is wanting more than anyone else, and wanting what they have and in most cases will step on anyone to get it.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to grow your buisness, it is what you do with that buisness. Someone with greedy desires will expand by cheating others in most cases. However I know some Christians who have very flourishing buisnesses, and they use most of their extra income for the ministry.

Greed does not always have to be money. Greed is talked about in the 10 commandments. Thou shalt not covet....... Never take what isn't yours.
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Old 01-21-2009, 05:07 AM   #4
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Greed typically denotes the excessive urge to possess as a goal bringing satisfaction in itself, the desire to acquire material wealth and possessions beyond the need of the individual, especially when this accumulation of possession denies others legitimate needs or access to those or other resources. For example, amassing a large collection of coins would not in itself be considered greed, unless the needs of others were jeopardized in the process. Essential to the concept of greed is the awareness that the needs of others are denied, thus rivalrous goods exemplify greed while non-rivalrous goods may not. Greed also often involves using wealth to gain power over others, sometimes by denying others wealth or power.
Some desire to increase or maintain one's wealth is more or less universal and acceptable in any culture, but this simple want is not enough to be considered greed. Greed is the far end of this desire, particularly where one desires things simply for the sake of owning them (such as the desire to have great amounts of money not to purchase objects, but where the possession of the money is an end unto itself). Greed typically entails acquiring material possessions at the expense of others' welfare; for example, a father buying himself a new car, rather than fixing the roof of the family home, or otherwise a case of morally wrong priorities.
A well known example of greed is the pirate Hendrick Lucifer, who fought for hours to acquire Cuban gold, becoming mortally wounded in the process. He died of his wounds just hours after having transfered the booty to his ship.
Greed (by extended definition) for the consumption of food or drink for pleasure, combined with excessive indulgence in them, is called gluttony; similarly, excessive greed for and indulgence in sex may be called lust, although it is generally understood that the latter term often no longer carries such negative connotations as it once did.
A woodcut by Ugo da Carpi, is entitled "Hercules Chasing Avarice from the Temple of the Muses".[1] Thomas Aquinas metaphorically described the sin of Avarice as "Mammon being carried up from Hell by a wolf, coming to inflame the human heart with Greed".
Proponents of laissez-faire capitalism sometimes argue that greed should not be considered a negative trait and should instead be embraced, as they claim that greed is a profoundly benevolent force in human affairs, as well as a necessary foundation for the capitalist system. Critics have argued that this definition confuses greed with self-interest, which can be benign "” a viewpoint which is espoused in Ayn Rand's novel Atlas Shrugged and also presented by the character Gordon Gekko in the film Wall Street, who famously declares that "Greed, for lack of a better word, is good".
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Old 01-21-2009, 05:57 AM   #5
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Can we say that greed is simply failing to be content with what we have.
Placing a greater value upon the "things", or gifts, than upon the approval of the giver of all good gifts.
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Old 01-21-2009, 09:20 AM   #6
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My line of work is farming. I would like to farm more ground. I am little farmer compared to alot of guys. There are many guys in the sameboat as I. The big farmers out bid you on buying the ground or renting. In my eyes this is greed. They already farm few thousand acres. Do they need more? No they dont.
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Old 01-22-2009, 07:35 PM   #7
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I grew up on a farm. Ourfamilyfarm is also small compared to most in the area. We never had a lot growing up; but I did not regret it then; nor do I regret it now. One of the greatest treasures after my salvation are the memories ofme working with my parents and siblings on the farm. Dad always held his ethics and never tried to pull one over on anyone. Ifthere was an error in his favor he would let them know. Some of the localswho called themselves "Christians" wouldat times be caught trying to cheat the elevator when they hauled in theircrops. One guy had afalse floor on the bottom thathe would fill with sand to get more weight.Dad is/was aguy who walked the walk. Dad wasa person who was trusted by others - but he wasalso talked down by the cheaters and big operators. Quite often, there is a price for doing the right thing.

We have alwaysstayed away from the genetically modified seeds. I am not sure if you use gm seed. If not, I would suggest staying away from it.
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