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Old 01-20-2009, 07:17 AM   #1
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My daughter is starting to study evolution in her 10th grade science class, we believe in creation. If you didn't know by now. LOL! A question was raised in class about what darwin believed himself. We have heard that later in his life, he asked CHRIST in to his heart. Does anybody know if true and where we can find proff. Please this is serious, so no funny business, my daughter wants to be a good witnes to the class. Help!
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:45 AM   #2
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Was Darwin a Christian? Did he believe in God? Did he recant ...
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:17 AM   #3
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In his autobiography in 1876, Darwin wrote, "Considering how fiercely I have been attacked by the orthodox, it seems ludicrous that I once intended to be a clergyman....I gradually came to disbelieve in Christianity as a divine revelation." He was generally considered to be an agnostic. There are stories floating around that he had a deathbed conversion, but there is no credible evidence for that.

Darwin may have run into the same problem that I have, namely people claiming that if you accept evolution, you can't be a Christian. I've rejected that idea, but it appears that ol' Charles didn't.

By the way, he was sick for most of the latter part of his life. Modern physicians believe, based on his symptoms, thathe contracted a disease similar to sleeping sickness while in the tropics.



Regardless of Darwin's beliefs, she could point out to folks who are interested that there are many devout Christians who accept evolution as the best explanation for the diversity of species.
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Regardless of Darwin's beliefs, she could point out to folks who are interested that there are many devout Christians who accept evolution as the best explanation for the diversity of species.
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Old 01-20-2009, 10:42 AM   #5
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Ken, use your best judgement here (wouldn't want her to get a bad grade), but if her teacher is open-minded she might incorporate a bit of ID (intelligent design) into the class, and note there are prominent scientists who believe in ID. She might also point out the fact that belief in the theory of evolution is as much a religion as any other. It requires blind faith, has it's own "god" (science), cannot be reproduced, varies considerably depending on who you talk to and when, cannot be proven (hence it is a theory, not a fact), that the theory of evolution would require innumerable and continual supernatural acts (everythingchanging at the same time, but all for the benefit of each other, whilethere being a population large enough for mistakes to die off, and all this came from????????)etc.

As for Darwin, not likely there will be any evidence found. If he did make a confession, his followers would never have allowed evidence of it to survive.

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My daughter is starting to study evolution in her 10th grade science class, we believe in creation. If you didn't know by now. LOL! A question was raised in class about what darwin believed himself. We have heard that later in his life, he asked CHRIST in to his heart. Does anybody know if true and where we can find proff. Please this is serious, so no funny business, my daughter wants to be a good witnes to the class. Help!
This, to me, is an interesting question. Since my educational goal is a Ph.D. in embryology and my occupational goal is teaching biology at the college level I might find this kind of question arising in a class. (Especially since rookie profs are usually assigned to teach intro.)

A student's grade should never suffer because he/she doesn't agree with the course material. However, if you enroll in a course, you are expected to learn the course material.

I think I would have to limit discussion in this direction during class time based on the fact that it would be a science class, not a religion class. It wouldn't be fair to the other students to spend too much time off topic.

If a student were sincerely interested, I would offer him/her the opportunity to write a paper for extra credit comparing the evidence for both sides of the debate. I would suggest that the student concentrate on human evolution since that's where most of the research has been done. (People tend to be most interested in humans. I would research ground squirrels myself. Don't ask me why. I love ground squirrels.)

It would have to be a scientific type review of the literature paper with references and all. I've done those. It's a great learning experience.

So that would be how I would handle it. Great question. It got me thinking.

Sheep have not really evolved into rope-jumping critters. We are just an example of computer animation.
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My daughter is starting to study evolution in her 10th grade science class, we believe in creation. If you didn't know by now. LOL! A question was raised in class about what darwin believed himself. We have heard that later in his life, he asked CHRIST in to his heart. Does anybody know if true and where we can find proff. Please this is serious, so no funny business, my daughter wants to be a good witnes to the class. Help!
I also believe in creation. There is so much evidence that supports creation, but the biggest support is that the Bible proclaims it.

Ken Hamm has studied Charles Darwin a lot. You may want to contact the organization he is with. The following link has contact information.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/feedback/

For information on creation vs. evolution I would suggest listening to the following. The MP3 downloads are free.
http://www.gty.org/resources/Sermons/series/148
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My husbands friend told us about Ben Stein's movie no intelligence allowed and he said it was pretty good. We haven't watched it yet, but it sounded as though it would be something of use for this.
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My husbands friend told us about Ben Stein's movie no intelligence allowed and he said it was pretty good. We haven't watched it yet, but it sounded as though it would be something of use for this.
That is an excellent suggestion. I have seen ithe movie and was recently given a copy as a gift. It does a great job of explaining the enormous injustice done to students byteaching onlyevolutionary theory and ignoring any evidence to the contrary. Teachers that even mention ID are subject to punishment, including loss of tenure. For reasons such as this, even though many of today's scientists see the need for a creator,they don't speak out for fear of being severely chastised for voicing what's right before their eyes. Satan is really getting his way here.

To answer the original thread though . . . it appears that Darwin was at one time a believer. His discussions with Lydell are believed tohave played a significantpart of the reason he eventually proposed this theory. His conversion to atheism is now seen as a logical "next step" in belief in evolution since God is allowed no part in evolutionary thinking. His supposed deathbed conversion is largely speculative and probably never be proven. His wife was a devout Christian who spent many years praying for him to believe, but he couldn't allow God to cloud his thinking.
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