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Old 12-22-2008, 09:50 AM   #1
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The False Prophet; who and why

This letter is written to all Christians interested in Bible prophecy.

Originally, it was never meant to see the light of day. It was developed from a disagreement on Bible prophecy. I was resolved not to send it as I thought it was redundant. It seemed to be a repeat of the issues or a natural conclusion to the facts as stated in my previous letters. Finally, I decided that what I took for granted must be said. Most were either not convinced, or did not understand. Also, this subject matter lends support to my other writings on the end times...

I never know how to start these narratives. I do not comment on many topics, though I may have an opinion. I treat my words as Gold. I keep all my comments strictly on the end times and frequently asked questions. The main subject is always Satan and how he continues to twist the truth to his benefit...

Where prophecy is concerned, it always takes time for events to unfold and become easier to see. Thiswas the case withmy posts on prophecy . I never envisioned the six month truce happening between Israel and Hamas, brokered by Egypt. Therefore, events as I see them in my mind, are set back 6 months. A lot has happened though in those six months. The economy is a wreck, the stock market has dropped by nearly half, and oil has dropped to around 30 dollars. The only bright spot is cheaper gas prices, which also means that terrorists get less of our petrol dollars. It's really too bad that our economy is so reliant on oil from countries in the Middle East. These same people want to cut our throats. If we were dealing with any other group of people there would be very little problem, but Islam wants to dominate. It wants everyone in submission to it. Christianity and Islam are incompatible, neither one can accept the other. It has always been this way and will never change. When Islam feels threatened, it finds new and improved ways to subvert the masses. Ask yourself this. Why won't Saudi Arabia allow Christians? In the U.S. we call that discrimination, lacking tolerance or being politically incorrect. When they can't have what they want they use our own laws against us. If all else fails and sometimes not, they use the Jihad excuse. I have heard it said many times. This is just our natural response...

Back to the topic. I was going to keep this part to myself. I really saw no need to post it, but maybe I was wrong. You be the judge. This letter shall be in every place that has received previous posts by me. Therefore, all one has to do to get further explanation is to search out my screen name and all posts by me. This letter is a response to a question from a skeptic. Here we go...

First of all, I did not set any dates. Furthermore, I have never named the false prophet. I have never named him because I saw no reason to name him. I figured by naming the beast (Mahmoud Abbas) everyone could see who the false prophet was. Since according to you I have committed slander, let's take that one step further. I haven't named the false prophet until this very post. I will not keep silent anymore. Here he is.

The false prophet is Ismail Haniyeh. Most of you probably don't know who he is, so indulge me for a second. Ismail Haniyeh is the leader of Hamas in the Gaza Strip. He shared power with Abbas for a short time during 2006 in the Unity Government.

When Hamas chose not to honor the image of the beast, the international community cut off support to Abbas and the Palestinians. The image of the beast is three items; honoring all prior Palestinian agreements, recognizing Israel's right to exist and a renunciation of terror. Hamas enters the picture in Revelation 13:11. They are one horn of the beast, just as Abbas is also a horn. A horn is a king. Hamas exercised all the power of the first beast Abbas and caused them to worship the first beast (Abbas).

How did Haniyeh cause them to worship the first beast?

Because Hamas would not honor or abide by any prior Palestinian agreements and continued to sponsor terrorism, he caused the whole world to honor the image of the beast (which was Abbas and his government without Hamas). By not honoring or worshipping the image, Hamas caused the whole world to reject Hamas. This is just exactly the opposite of what Christians are taught. Most believe the false prophet is supposed to lead worship of some manlike image. This is absolutely wrong. The image is the Palestinian Government prior to the arrival of Hamas as a part in it. Hamas caused the world to honor the image. An Image defined by the international community.

Strong's Concordance translates the word worship as honor. I wouldn't necessarily say the translators made a mistake by using the word worship instead of honor, but surely it confused the situation. BTW, this was by design. We are not supposed to understand until right before the end. Remember, the Lord spoke in parables. Not all are supposed to know... Michael777aka Ephraim
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Old 12-22-2008, 12:25 PM   #2
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How can a regionel Palestinian Leader be the False Prophet ?
He doesn't even Control his own people, he has never prophecied anything nor even appeared as a religious person,
Sorry this prophecy is just gibbirish.
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I'm curious now:

- What is the false prophet to you?
- What do you believe is the goal of the false prophet?
- How do you believe the goal of the false prophet coincides with your judgement of these men?
- What scripture do you offer to support your conclusions and that also supports the conclusions made on these men?

I can't really respond otherwise, I am just trying to get a feel for why you believe the way you do.
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Old 12-22-2008, 06:00 PM   #4
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I'm curious now:

- What is the false prophet to you?
- What do you believe is the goal of the false prophet?
- How do you believe the goal of the false prophet coincides with your judgement of these men?
- What scripture do you offer to support your conclusions and that also supports the conclusions made on these men?

I can't really respond otherwise, I am just trying to get a feel for why you believe the way you do.
What is the false prophet to you?
I suppose you mean what is the definition of the
false prophet. He is defined in Revelation 19:20
by the acts which he commits...

What do you believe is the goal of the false prophet?
The goal of the false prophet is the desruction of
Israel and the elimination of Jews from Israel.

My judgment of the false prophet means nothing.
It is God's will that matters. I am interpreting what
I understand. If you are interestedGod's judgment of
the beast and the false prophet, it is the same as all
non-believers in Jesus; the furnace.
The scripture I am citing for the most part is Revelation
13:11 thru 18. Also, I have mentionedas supportmy
other letters, which are here in this forum. I gave it a
bump a few days ago to remind the group.It never
remains longthough due to the volume of posts.
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Old 12-23-2008, 10:38 AM   #5
 
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Interesting opinion. Have you ever considered that the beast out of the sea is a political system, not a man? Do you believe that "the" false prophet is the the same as the antichrist (instead of Christ)? Matthew 24:11 tells us there will be many false prophets - separate from "the" false prophet of Rev 19:20. I disagree with your conclusions, in that many different societies could be interpreted into these passages, the roman empire for one. The political system (beast out of the sea) is going to be something to be marveled at by the whole world - a one world system, and currently hamas can't quite cut it for that description. Where are the miracles of your Ismail Haniyeh? Is not his purpose to deceive the world, to mislead those that are not saved by the grace of God?
We are coming into new times, scary, different, progressive, and very unsettling. Be very careful before you make conclusive judgements on the beasts and false prophet. It is satan and his doing, and I don't think we give him enough credit for his cunning and deceitful tactics. I think - notice think- he will be much more subtle and convincing than we can even imagine. His goal is to lead the world into worshiping him over God. He will be very convincing, so much so that the world will wonder after him that he is God, so much so that even God's elect would be decieved if God had not shortened the time he has to tempt us (Matthew 24:22).
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Interesting opinion. Have you ever considered that the beast out of the sea is a political system, not a man? Do you believe that "the" false prophet is the the same as the antichrist (instead of Christ)? Matthew 24:11 tells us there will be many false prophets - separate from "the" false prophet of Rev 19:20. I disagree with your conclusions, in that many different societies could be interpreted into these passages, the roman empire for one. The political system (beast out of the sea) is going to be something to be marveled at by the whole world - a one world system, and currently hamas can't quite cut it for that description. Where are the miracles of your Ismail Haniyeh? Is not his purpose to deceive the world, to mislead those that are not saved by the grace of God?
We are coming into new times, scary, different, progressive, and very unsettling. Be very careful before you make conclusive judgements on the beasts and false prophet. It is satan and his doing, and I don't think we give him enough credit for his cunning and deceitful tactics. I think - notice think- he will be much more subtle and convincing than we can even imagine. His goal is to lead the world into worshiping him over God. He will be very convincing, so much so that the world will wonder after him that he is God, so much so that even God's elect would be decieved if God had not shortened the time he has to tempt us (Matthew 24:22).
G-Dawg 02,

Very good post and I much agree.
Has anyone ever read the book "Anti-Christ: Islams awaited Messiah". It compares the anti-christ of the bible to the Mahdi of Islam. For those who don't know the Mahdi is who the Muslims believe will come to the Earth in the end of days to take over the world and set up an Islamic kingdom.

Its an excellent read and extremely thought provoking. The similarities are very convincing.In one part of thebook it explains how the Muslim Jesus(not to be mistaken for the Christian Jesus) will come to the earth and tell the Christians they have been wrong this whole time in worshiping himself and should be bowing down to the Mahdi. Remember Muslims don't believe Jesus is the Son of God, they believe he was simply a prophet. This Muslim Jesus(false prophet)performs miracles like the real one and is very convincing to say the least thus fooling the elect.

I often wondered how the evil one could pull off what is explained in Revelation and other books of the Bible. After reading this book it suddenly clicked. Once you see the comparison between the Mahdi and Anti-Christ you 'll be amazed.
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There are many false Prophet's in many churches today!
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There are many false Prophet's in many churches today!
Yep I know a few, Personally
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There are many false Prophet's in many churches today!
Yep I know a few, Personally
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Interesting opinion. Have you ever considered that the beast out of the sea is a political system, not a man? Do you believe that "the" false prophet is the the same as the antichrist (instead of Christ)? Matthew 24:11 tells us there will be many false prophets - separate from "the" false prophet of Rev 19:20. I disagree with your conclusions, in that many different societies could be interpreted into these passages, the roman empire for one. The political system (beast out of the sea) is going to be something to be marveled at by the whole world - a one world system, and currently hamas can't quite cut it for that description. Where are the miracles of your Ismail Haniyeh? Is not his purpose to deceive the world, to mislead those that are not saved by the grace of God?
We are coming into new times, scary, different, progressive, and very unsettling. Be very careful before you make conclusive judgements on the beasts and false prophet. It is satan and his doing, and I don't think we give him enough credit for his cunning and deceitful tactics. I think - notice think- he will be much more subtle and convincing than we can even imagine. His goal is to lead the world into worshiping him over God. He will be very convincing, so much so that the world will wonder after him that he is God, so much so that even God's elect would be decieved if God had not shortened the time he has to tempt us (Matthew 24:22).
G-Dawg 02,

Very good post and I much agree.
Has anyone ever read the book "Anti-Christ: Islams awaited Messiah". It compares the anti-christ of the bible to the Mahdi of Islam. For those who don't know the Mahdi is who the Muslims believe will come to the Earth in the end of days to take over the world and set up an Islamic kingdom.

Its an excellent read and extremely thought provoking. The similarities are very convincing.In one part of thebook it explains how the Muslim Jesus(not to be mistaken for the Christian Jesus) will come to the earth and tell the Christians they have been wrong this whole time in worshiping himself and should be bowing down to the Mahdi. Remember Muslims don't believe Jesus is the Son of God, they believe he was simply a prophet. This Muslim Jesus(false prophet)performs miracles like the real one and is very convincing to say the least thus fooling the elect.

I often wondered how the evil one could pull off what is explained in Revelation and other books of the Bible. After reading this book it suddenly clicked. Once you see the comparison between the Mahdi and Anti-Christ you 'll be amazed.
I know what you are saying. Albert Pike is another example. Pike believed that Lucifer was the way the the light and he believed that Jesus was the bad guy decieving everyone. The thing is, Islamic extremists have been killing innocent people who do not believe in Islam to impress thier God so I don't see how they can believe that thier God was ever good to begin with? And of course, you have your societies that believe the Holy Bible is just a story that was written by men with an agenda.

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