For two mornings now I have awakened thinking about this scripture;
Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
The Testator, (Jesus) was still living in John's time. John was beheaded before Lamb of God was slain, before the sacrifice was paid for sins. The promised Holy Ghost wasn't sent until the 2nd chapter of Acts. The Kingdom of God isn't meat and drink, but righteousness, peace and joy, in the Holy Ghost.
You bible scholars, give me something to think about here.
"For two mornings now I have awakened thinking about this scripture; Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. The Testator, (Jesus) was still living in John's time. John was beheaded before Lamb of God was slain, before the sacrifice was paid for sins. The promised Holy Ghost wasn't sent until the 2nd chapter of Acts. The Kingdom of God isn't meat and drink, but righteousness, peace and joy, in the Holy Ghost.
You bible scholars, give me something to think about here. "
Snooky..
There are no questions Snooky...What are you wanting?..Everything you wrote are facts...Where is your question?
Chuck, my questions center around the time frame set forth. Did The Kingdom of God come prior to the second chapter of acts? Did the law end with John and not with Jesus?
Luke 21:31 Remember The Kingdom is PREACHED since John. Also The kingdom of God is within you. The Kingdom of God is righteousness, peace, and joy IN The Holy Ghost. Now Luke declares that when these signs of the end are fulfilled, THEN is the Kingdom of God nigh. Nigh still looks to the future. What did they teach in Bible College as a sequence of events, or time pattern?
I am querious as to what the more educated have to say about it.
Chuck, my questions center around the time frame set forth. Did The Kingdom of God come prior to the second chapter of acts?
According to Jesus it did..." The kingdom of God is within you"
Did the law end with John and not with Jesus? No, it did not end with John..When the lepors were healed they were to present themselves to the priest..Jesus was condemned after the law..
Luke 21:31 Remember The Kingdom is PREACHED since John. Also The kingdom of God is within you. The Kingdom of God is righteousness, peace, and joy IN The Holy Ghost. Now Luke declares that when these signs of the end are fulfilled, THEN is the Kingdom of God nigh. Nigh still looks to the future. What did they teach in Bible College as a sequence of events, or time pattern?
I am querious as to what the more educated have to say about it. I certainly would not call Bible students more educated..Bible students simply fulfill requirements to get a license..My degree did nothing for my faith,,TheHoly Spirit is the teacher of every beleiver..We simply put information in our short term memory to fulfillrequirements to get adiploma..Thus the reason I gave all my commentators away..I feel they are simply men just as I am..WhatI share on here I got before I went to Bible college..I've read the Bible many times.My Bible magor was a big waste of time..I never learned anything of value ,,, My Education degreehas been very profitable...and music..not really.If one can't play the piano..there is no sense going into music..but my degrees were all free from the military.
My time line understanding...
A.400 years before the law God chose Abraham / Israel to be his chosen people
B. God gave Moses the law to give to His chosen people AND any proselytes who were interested..
C. Israel became a rebellious people..
D. All aong before the foundations of the world..God had a plan to save THE WORLD.
E. John The Baptist preached repentance ..he was preaching for men to prepare their hearts for the Messiah..."To make the crooked straight "
E. According to Ephesians 2..the law was "Eph. 2:15 abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; "
so it was on the cross...when the law was abolished. The vail was rent in twain for ALL OF US TO ENTER BOLDLY INTO THE HOLY OF HOLIES.
F..Now according to the book of Acts..some Jews still carry out parts of the law.Peter was a preacher to the Jews and Paul to the Gentiles..DO they have a different gospel..maybe slightly..All the Christian Jews I 've run into still worship on the Sabbath{ Sat.}and have dietary laws..I respect that and pray that they respect our liberty in Christ...The end result is still the same..We both are motivated by a lovefor God that causes usto love one another..
I'm sure I never gave you the answers you are looking for.I'm just a simple individual Snooky..not a real deep thinker...I was hoping to memorize lots of the Bible in Bible College..LOL it was a waste of time I thought..All the memorization I did on my own..
Chuck, Thanks for the input. We are blessed with some very learned Bible scholars on this site. They may not have a lot of "degrees", but have a lifetime of study and experience behind them. I have gained much from them since coming on board, and hope that I have also contributed a little to others along the way.
You brethern know how great an error can be made if the dismal point gets placed in the wrong spot on the paycheck. Give me some input--since that time the Kingdom of God is preached--that time is the dismal point. The Holy Ghost was not yet given, (Acts 2:38). The Kingdom of God is in The Holy Ghost. Was it just preached as a future promise? The Law was until John, yet Jesus had not fulfilled and finished his work. What about the interval between John and the death of Christ? If the law was until John, and the blood shed for remission was not yet spilled, By what means were they saved during that period of time?
"The law and the prophets" is a phrase used several times in the Bible. In each usage, the term is synonymous with "the scriptures." The sacred writings used to teach the word and laws of God by the Jews of Jesus" day were the books of the Old Testament. The "law" refers to the first five books: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. In these books is the Law of Moses as given to the children of Israel. The purpose of this law was to be a schoolmaster to remind them of Christ and prepare them for the higher law (Galatians 3:24). The "prophets" refers to the historical and prophetic books of the Old Testament; the historical books from Joshua to Esther, and the prophetic books from Isaiah to Malachi. The purpose of these prophesies was to foretell the coming of Christ. Also included in the Old Testament are "the writings." These are the poetical books such as Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, and Song of Solomon. Jesus refers to them with the law and the prophets in Luke 24:44. Their purpose is also the same; they profess the glory of the Lord and His love for His people. When the phrase "the law and the prophets" is used in the New Testament, it is used in the same way that "the Bible" is used today, indicating the sacred writings instructing the people of God how to live.I don't know whatyou're reading into it, or maybe you're getting a different revelation of things to come...
I'm sure you know all this, but I can't read anything else into it.
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"God grant me the serenity to accept the people I cannot change, the courage to change the ONE I can change, and the wisdmon to know that it's ME"
THEN is the Kingdom of God nigh. Nigh still looks to the future.
I don't think that the "nigh" is a matter of time, I believe that it refers to distance. The Kingdom of God is within the believers. We have been translatedout ofthe kingdom of darkness and translated into the Kingdom of God's dear Son.
I don't think that the "nigh" is a matter of time, I believe that it refers to distance. The Kingdom of God is within the believers. We have been translatedout ofthe kingdom of darkness and translated into the Kingdom of God's dear Son.
dk, Not trying to disagree, but just asking questions. I agree, "nigh" could mean distance, but could that be a distance in time? I believe we are in the Kingdom of God, and The Kingdom is in us. If "nigh is either time, or distance--If it is come--if it is within, why use the word "nigh"?? As if it is something to look forward to??
looking for imput
I'm just a simple individual Snooky..not a real deep thinker...I was hoping to memorize lots of the Bible in Bible College..LOL it was a waste of time I thought..All the memorization I did on my own..
