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Old 09-30-2008, 02:59 AM   #1
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Are we nearing that time??? I believe so.I don't believe Obama is the anti Christ spoken about in Revelations BUT I do beleive our present economical crisis is helping to set the stage. .to desparately accept any help in this finantial situation...[:-]
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Old 09-30-2008, 07:01 AM   #2
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Chuck i recieved this in an e-mail, it from Dan Millers site....

while i will agree a lot of things "appear" to be falling in place and in line i will not worry about things i cannot change, just try to be prepared

here is the excert:

Henry David Thoreau once said: "A man had better starve at once than lose his innocence in the process of getting his bread."

Just doing a job cannot justify doing something unethical, immoral, or dishonest. The guards in the German concentration camps, after becoming friends with the prisoners, would often justify walking them to the gas chambers with, "I'm just doing my job."

I know we have all been inundated with the messy details of the unraveling of Wall Street so I won"t bore you with more of the same. However, hopefully we will learn the lessons from this blatant example of what"s wrong with the common corporate mentality. Greed, deceit, and a "culture of corporate corruption" can never be justified.

Unfortunately, this is just one more historical example of moral meltdown. When people at the top justify one little breach of integrity and then compound it with another to cover the first, there is no limit to what can be encouraged. Adolf Hitler, Jim Jones and many others have served as models for leading "normal" individuals to lose all ethical perspective for the good of the cause. And the end result seems to be very predictable --- devastation to thousands of innocent people.

Thomas Stanley, in his landmark book, "The Millionaire Mind," lists the top five factors most often displayed by millionaires in explaining their economic success: (1) Integrity " being honest with all people, (2) Discipline " applying self control, (3) Social Skills " getting along with people, (4) A Supportive Spouse, and (5) Hard Work. Notice the number one characteristic " Integrity. Without that, any "success" is likely to be short-lived.


we are reaping what we have sown IMO
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Old 09-30-2008, 09:01 AM   #3
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Keith ,
This can be applied in everyday situation..I just recently gave up some good opportuinties because I knew the opportunity would involve me compromising my values..

The scripture says "If you can't run with men how do you expect to run with horses." meaning..if we can't make a stand for Christ now ..do we really think we will deny the mark later on in life and lay our lives down for Christ..
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We are certainly on our way Chuck. the greed and wickedness of men is spreading. Remember that our Lord flipped tables when he seen coins with idols on them required by the jews to pay taxes to Ceasar. Matthew 23 states that you can only worship one master but you cannot choose both.

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Old 09-30-2008, 09:48 AM   #5
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Goodpoint my man..1 Tim.6 says."For the love of money is the root of all evil." It also test what men are made of..
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Old 10-05-2008, 03:04 AM   #6
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I don't believe Obama is the anti Christ spoken about in Revelations
Of course I can't say anything about him with complete certainty, I have suspected obama of being the anti-Christ ever since the crowds started treating him like he was a messiah - this was LONG before I ever heard anyone else say anything about the possibility. The overseas tour where he addressed, "Fellow citizens of the world" did nothing to dismiss that notion. There DEFINITELY WILL BE an antichrist and it would seem logicalthat he would want to seek the office that is considered by most to be the most powerful person in the world. He came to this position quickly and without the questions that would have normally come with a meteoric rise like this. The media is OBVIOUSLY doing everything possible to secure the Presidency for him - also not surprising since satan seems to have them in his back pocket. I could go on, but you get the idea.
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Old 10-05-2008, 03:39 AM   #7
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Good morning Dave,
Thanks for replying to the thread,


Of course I can't say anything about him with complete certainty, I have suspected obama of being the anti-Christ ever since the crowds started treating him like he was a messiah -

1 John says there are many anti - Christ..yes I believe he is anti Christ but not the anti Christ..simply because he does not fit the total discription found in God's Word..But IMHO he is part of the sequence of events that will lead us closer to a one world economical sysetem.


this was LONG before I ever heard anyone else say anything about the possibility. The overseas tour where he addressed, "Fellow citizens of the world" did nothing to dismiss that notion. There DEFINITELY WILL BE an antichrist and it would seem logicalthat he would want to seek the office that is considered by most to be the most powerful person in the world. He came to this position quickly and without the questions that would have normally come with a meteoric rise like this.
Good point Dave..and my wife does not believe he truly a citizen of the USA..


The media is OBVIOUSLY doing everything possible to secure the Presidency for him - also not surprising since satan seems to have them in his back pocket. I could go on, but you get the idea.

Yes sir..I especially agree with your statement " Since Satan seems to have them in his back pocket." The students I get seem to get worse every year..like they are a special people born for this time...The Bible does seem to be a fable to some..In this weeks paper the editor mentioned that studentsat the University of Florida was allowed to read { For just this week}some books thatare banned,,here was a couple of those books,,,To Kill a Mockingbird, Lord of the FLies and The Bible.[&o]

Yep we as a nation have gone totally reprobate.
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Not to take anything away from anything that has been said, but I fear that we can get so focused upon the natural reasoning, and that which is seen with the eye and heard with the ear that we miss the most important thing. We are in a spiritual warfare and the weapons of our warefare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the casting down of strong holds. Having begun in the spirit, are we now made perfect through the flesh? Remember, He will deceive the very elect IF possible. Many that can quote volumns of scripture will be taken in by his deception because they fail to hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. Eyes to see, but they see not, ears to hear, but they hear not.
To catch a fox, set the trap to the side of the trail and camoflage it to appear harmless. Then set an trap in plain sight in the trail. While he focuses upon the danger that he can plainly see, he walks right into the real trap. We must not be ignorant of his devises!! Keep watch on that in plain sight, but always look for the hidden spirit that works behind the scenes.
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Old 10-05-2008, 07:49 AM   #9
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Not to take anything away from anything that has been said, but I fear that we can get so focused upon the natural reasoning, and that which is seen with the eye and heard with the ear that we miss the most important thing. We are in a spiritual warfare and the weapons of our warefare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the casting down of strong holds.
It's funny ...my wife said the same thing this morning..You are 100% corect.Gideon..a man of God only had so much understanding . vision UNTIl God opened up his eyes.Yes there is MUCH more going on than the well studied up saint even knows..I confess whole heartedly that my understanding of endtime events is verylimited
Having begun in the spirit, are we now made perfect through the flesh? Remember, He will deceive the very elect IF possible. GREAT POINT!Many that can quote volumns of scripture will be taken in by his deception because they fail to hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. Eyes to see, but they see not, ears to hear, but they hear not.
To catch a fox, set the trap to the side of the trail and camoflage it to appear harmless. Then set an trap in plain sight in the trail. While he focuses upon the danger that he can plainly see, he walks right into the real trap. We must not be ignorant of his devises!! Keep watch on that in plain sight, but always look for the hidden spirit that works behind the scenes.

GREAT WORD INDEED !! WOnderful word..something we need to put in our hearts.
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Old 10-05-2008, 12:05 PM   #10
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The students I get seem to get worse every year..like they are a special people born for this time
It's even worse than that Chuck . . . .they are a product of this time.
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