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Old 08-19-2008, 05:26 AM   #1
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Luke CHAPTER 16:19-22

19.There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
20.And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21.And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22.And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

Holy Bible -- King James Version

Sooooo where was all the other Christians at?
There had to be more than this one rich man in the world at this time.
I know that God was useing this to make a point.

Buuuuuuuuuuuut,
Why didn't anyone else come to help Lazarus?

Any One have any Idea's or reasons why or why not?


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Old 08-19-2008, 06:04 AM   #2
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Let me give you one possibility to think about. In the 3rd chapter of Acts, Peter and John meet up with a begger at the Gate Beautiful. Peter, through the power of Jesus' name, heals this man. We know from scripture that Jesus spent a great deal of time teaching and going to and from the temple. I think it is safe to assume that Jesus may have encountered this man. The scripture says he was placed there everyday. Why didn't Jesus heal him? The answer could possibly be that God,in his infinite wisdom, had a different plan. Perhaps there were people there that day who had never heard of Jesus and God used this event to draw those people to Himself. The bible declares that there is a time and puropose for everything. Maybe Lazarus was part of a greater purpose. Just something to think about.

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Old 08-19-2008, 07:47 AM   #3
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Someone laid the beggar at the choice spot, the rich mans gate. Although the scripture doesn't say, I am sure that if his daily handouts weren't suffient, someone shared bread with him.
The 3rd Chapter ofActs,when Peter and John went to pray, they told the lame man that they had no silver or gold. Riches isn't measured by silver, gold, or thing possessed. Lazarus was the richer of the two.
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Luke CHAPTER 16:19-22

19.There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
20.And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21.And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22.And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

Holy Bible -- King James Version

Sooooo where was all the other Christians at?
There had to be more than this one rich man in the world at this time.
I know that God was useing this to make a point.

Buuuuuuuuuuuut,
Why didn't anyone else come to help Lazarus?

Any One have any Idea's or reasons why or why not?
I don't know if I understand your question, but what I understood was," where were the Christians" ? First you have to realize the Bible is not a Christian book per say, although the NT refers to Christianity as a name that people began to use to identify those that follow the Jewish Christ, it is still a book written by Hebrews, the Story of Eleazar(Lazarus) is set in times before there was a church, when Yeshua(Jesus) told the story there was no christians yet, only Jews who follow their Rabbi, he had knowledge which went beyond time and space, many Jewish scholars claim that story comes from around the time of Job and was taught to Jewish Children in order to teach piety and Charity, so that is your answer there were no Christians to help Eleazar and apparently the richman was not a Jew who was taught to share.
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Old 08-19-2008, 09:27 AM   #5
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Certainly all the other answers are good..I just thought I'd join in for the fellowship.

Luke CHAPTER 16:19-22

19.There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
20.And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21.And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22.And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

Holy Bible -- King James Version

Sooooo where was all the other Christians at? Well..first of all Johnny Ray I beleive thisto be a parable. and in another place as Jesus told a certain disciple."The poor you have always." My dear friend..I have not enough money to minister to all that I would like..especially during this recession..The needs are GREAT! There had to be more than this one rich man in the world at this time.
I know that God was useing this to make a point. That's right ..he was.and James tells us that the poor of this world are actually the rich ones..and why..Because they are forced to put their faith in God.

Buuuuuuuuuuuut,
Why didn't anyone else come to help Lazarus? ..I don't beleive that was the pont Jesus was trying to make..He was showing how real Hell was and the warning of loving riches..

Any One have any Idea's or reasons why or why not?

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Everyone,

One more point I'd like to make about this story if I may. The poor man was carried to Abrahams bossom, not because he was poor but obviously because he had lived a righteous life. You could be the most impoverished person on the face of the earth and if you had not accepted Jesus Christ, you would end up with the rich man in torment. By the same token, the rich man did not wind up in torment because he was rich. He wound up there because he had lived a sinful life.

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One more point I'd like to make about this story if I may. The poor man was carried to Abrahams bossom, not because he was poor but obviously because he had lived a righteous life. You could be the most impoverished person on the face of the earth and if you had not accepted Jesus Christ, you would end up with the rich man in torment. By the same token, the rich man did not wind up in torment because he was rich. He wound up there because he had lived a sinful life.

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Sorry but I have to dissagree, he ended up in Abraham's bossom because of the covenant with Abraham.
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Sorry Alex,
But I must agree with Pastor Jim..a Jew is not one who is outwardly circumcised but one whom is circumsized in his heart..Circumcison of the heart comes from obedience / righteousness...Because of the cross this is made available for both Gentile and Jew..The Pharisees proclaimed they had a covenant with Abraham..if they were truly of Abraham they would not have denounced Christ..
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Sorry Alex,
But I must agree with Pastor Jim..a Jew is not one who is outwardly circumcised but one whom is circumsized in his heart..Circumcison of the heart comes from obedience / righteousness...Because of the cross this is made available for both Gentile and Jew..The Pharisees proclaimed they had a covenant with Abraham..if they were truly of Abraham they would not have denounced Christ..
You are speaking After Christ ,Am speaking before Christ, How did Abraham and all Jews get to paradise ?
After Christ paradise was transported into the heavenlies, but before it was side by side with Gehena.
Jews Got to paradise through the Abrahamic Covenant and on the promise of the future redemption of the Messiah, I thought everyone knew that ?

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

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there is some thing about jesus that you may not of picked up on ,
mark 4:2
So he began to teach them many things with illustrations and to say to them in his teaching:

jesus all most all ways used illustrations to explain thing things ,the rich man and Lazarus, is just a story ,its not about real people.
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