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Old 08-13-2008, 11:50 PM   #1
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Default Revelation X111 by Ephraim


To anyone searching for a logical answer to Bible Prophecy, this letter is for You.

I would like to make a couple things very clear before I begin. These are interpretations from a Christian perspective. They are not intended in any way to be antisemitic. Furthermore, I believe the Jewish people have every right to live within secure boundaries and be independent.

In general, this is a letter that summarizes all of Revelation 13. Its purpose is to show the sequence of events which formed the conclusions in the letter entitled, "The Beast of Revelation 13 is Mahmoud Abbas." Revelation 13 is a puzzle, a parable whose pieces are only revealed in the progress of time.This letter will attempt to bring all the pieces together into one narrative. Since questions concerning prophecy never change and answers never change, this summary will answer almost any question.

Nevertheless, I will continue to be in disagreement with the majority because they do not have the will or the knowledge to admit they promote a false interpretation. The interpretation I am eluding to is the Revived Roman Empire theory. This scenario has been a dead end for years. I must admit though before WWI it had some validity. No ancient interpreter could have known that the Ottoman Empire would break into so many different sovereign states. Until the fall of the Ottoman empire the only possible answer seemed to be Europe. I apologize if this narrative moves too fast. It is assumed that those reading this page are somewhat versed in Revelation. HERE WE GO.

In reference to Revelation 13:1- The Beast rising up out of the sea is the Nation of Israel as it appears after the SIX DAY WAR in 1967.

What is meant by the term Beast? In general, most interpretations have this concept correct. According to most scholars he is the leader of ten nations. When the term Beast is used it can mean either the nations or the leader of those nations. It is the countries he leads and his location that is in dispute.

My interpretation of Rev. 13:1 is as follows:


The Beast can be either a group of seven nations that will wage war, which include Israel or the leader of those nations. In this case, that leader is Mahmoud Abbas. He is identified by his actions and the number 666. The glue that binds them together is Islam and their hate for Israel. This was the outcome of the 1967 war. It brought Israel into a permanent state of conflict with all of her neighbors. The beast was born in 1948 with Israel declaring its independence. A closer look can be seen in Rev.17. When Israel declared its independence, five nations went to war with her and five were vanquished. The word used for vanquished is fallen in verse Rev. 17:10. "And one is", this is Israel. Israel won her war of independence. The other that had not yet come is the Palestinian Authority, which brings us to Rev.13:1 again. The misinterpretation of Rev.17 has been the most responsible for the the Revived Roman empire theory.

The beast rising up out of the sea having seven heads and ten horns is as follows. Seven heads are seven mountains as indicated in Rev.17. Ten horns are ten kings. This is a partial explanation of this parable. The most critical word here is the word head. If the correct meaning is applied to the word head its answer will make sense. In scriptures a mountain has two meanings. It can be either a mountain range or a nation. In this case when a head is referenced in Revelation 13:1 we are talking about nations. This applies to both the heads of Rev.13:1 as well as the beasts mortal head wound. The mortal head wound is the nation or land as claimed by the Palestinians. It is the beasts head (nation) that is wounded. The Beast is Mahmoud Abbas. It was mortally wounded in the Six Day War and has been revived in the Oslo Accords. The beast of Revelation 17 and Revelation 13 are the same because they involve the same countries.

Every theory must have a good foundation. This sequence of events can only point to one individual. I have been writing about these events for over a decade. If I had been wrong from the beginning, this scenario could not have made it all the way to its finish. As it was I had no idea that I was looking for a date, 6/16/06. I was just following the money trail. Was it a coincidence that the policy which enabled them to buy and sell and the date 666 occurred on the same day? I don't think so.

It is always wise to search for the best answer. Who could fault someone for changing there mind when a better answer comes along? It is not dishonor to correct a mistake, but to continue giving false information especially in the realm of prophecy is dishonorable. Maybe some truly believe what they are saying, as for me I quit the big money preachers long ago. A hundred years ago I could understand, 20 years ago I could understand, not today...This is why the Lord will come as a thief. They're all looking in the wrong place...

One last item needs to be mentioned here before I finish my complaint against our so-called prophecy teachers. It is a gross misinterpretation which needs to be cited. For some reason anytime the Beast is discussed he is immediately confused with Satan or the antichrist. Satan is not the Beast. He is in heaven right now. He will be cast out of heaven as per Revelation 12 or if you prefer 2nd Thess. chap. 2. The falling away is Satan and his angels being cast out of heaven. These are two different verses that say the same thing. Satan can only be revealed to the world after the Rapture of the Church. Christians will not go through the Great Tribulation which will last for 3.5 years. Satan will be a God to the Muslims. He is also known as the Mahdi. Mahmoud Abbas will also be worshipped to a lesser degree because he will have achieved his goal, the conquest of Jerusalem...Ephraim aka michael777



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Old 11-22-2008, 03:48 PM   #2
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Am I reading you right? Are you saying that Israel is the beast of Rev. 13? I want to make sure I'm understanding you before I freak out///I mean debate with you..[8D]
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Am I reading you right? Are you saying that Israel is the beast of Rev. 13? I want to make sure I'm understanding you before I freak out///I mean debate with you..[8D]
No, you arenot reading me right. I'm saying that Israel is a part of the Beast rising up out of the sea. The majority involved are Muslim countries. The individualwho fulfills the prophecies concerning the second beast is Mahmoud Abbas. He is identified by the number 666 and his ability to enable his people to buy and sell. Also, he is identified by the mark he has given in his name.
The Beast can be either the nations or the individual who leads them. It takes two opposing groups to create the beast. Without two groups who oppose each other therewould be no war. This is a group of countries that will go to war. So when I say that the Beast rose up after the events of the six day war, I mean this event brought about the situation that caused the beast to rise. Israel is definitely a part of the Beast...Michael777
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Welcome to the forum Mike,

EVeryone on here has a slightly different theology Mike..but one thing we have in common..we are goingto need to see scripture to back up your views..Looks like a lot of speculation to me..I'e done alot of study in end time prohecy..and I have not heard anything like that...
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EVeryone on here has a slightly different theology Mike..but one thing we have in common..we are goingto need to see scripture to back up your views..Looks like a lot of speculation to me..I'e done alot of study in end time prohecy..and I have not heard anything like that...
If you have been doing this for a long time, itshould be very easy to see which verses I'm referencing in my narrative. Myself, I have been doing this for over twenty-five years, but longevity in study has little to do with it. I've met people with more yearsof study than meand I commonly disagree with them. Alternatively, I've heard some speak who had very little time and were very learned. This has less to do with the location of the verses in question than it does with an individual's interpretation of such verses. If a person reads the Bible like a newspaper, most likely the message won't be revealed. In other words,
if parables are not considered ininterpretation, thiswillalmost alwayslead to the wrong meaning. I have posted this letter here somewhere before, but I'll do it again. It helps explain my first post in more detail. I sometimes think that maybe I've sent this letter too much, but then I always run into someone as yourself who says they have never heard. I'm sure not every one agrees, but I would at least like them to have the chance...


This is a copy of the letter referenced in my first post. It was written on June 29, 2006.

Why Mahmoud Abbas is the Beast of Revelation 13.

The most important issue that must be resolved in discovering the meaning of Revelation 13 is which people are being discussed. If the wrong people are associated with the prophecies of Revelation 13 its answer can never be found. The people being referred to in Revelation 13 are the Palestinians. Once this is decided three questions have to be answered; why, how and who.

Why do the Palestinian people lack the ability to buy and sell?
Due to the Hamas takeover of the Palestinian Government, Western Aid was discontinued.

How will the Palestinian people receive funds in order to buy and sell?
Through a program called the Temporary International Mechanism that bypasses the Hamas controlled Palestinian Authority. This program was established on Friday June 16, 2006. This date 6/16/06 represents the day that one man was allowed to administer a program that paid the salaries of his people.

Who will provide these salaries to the Palestinians?
Western Aid was resumed through the office of Mahmoud Abbas due to the Temporary International Mechanism.

Also, what group will be prevented from getting money because they did not receive the mark? Hamas.

The mark of Mahmoud Abbas was issued in the Palestinian Presidential Election of January 2005. To prevent double voting an indelible ink mark was applied to the right hand of all voters. Since Hamas boycotted these elections their members never received the mark. Revelation 13:16 states that he caused all, small and great, rich and poor, and free and bond to receive a mark in their right hand or in their foreheads. Simply by being a candidate, Mahmoud Abbas caused his people to receive the mark. Anyone who voted, either for him, or against him, were there because of him.

Hamas will not honor the Image of Mahmoud Abbas, therefore all salaries are being given to Fatah, the party of Mahmoud Abbas. The Image is what the Palestinian Authority under Mahmoud Abbas represents. This Image of Abbas is required by the international community to continue peace talks with Israel. This Image is three items. These are the renunciation of terror, the honoring of all prior Palestinian agreements, and the recognition of Israel, which can also be expressed as the acceptance of the two-state solution based on the 1967 borders. If these ideas are not followed or honored those individuals will be killed. This is happening to Hamas daily.

So here is the sum of the matter. Mahmoud Abbas, in his name, was allowed to pay his people through a program created on a date that ended in three sixes. He was elected to his people by popular vote and caused his people to take a mark. This mark was given to everyone, even those in Israeli jails, who voted. Christians were always taught these basic principles, except I have linked the number 666 with his name, while prior teaching had the mark as 666 engraved.

Lastly, why is it important that these facts be stated? The reason is fulfilled prophecy written centuries ago can only mean one thing. The author of that prophecy has to be God. Also, it distinguishes between a true and a false religion. These are the two most important issues in this writing. May your faith be stronger. The blessings of God to all who understand. Michael777aka Ephraim


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If you have been doing this for a long time, itshould be very easy to see which verses I'm referencing in my narrative."I'm saying that Israel is a part of the Beast rising up out of the sea."Mike
Mike..I've been to Bible college for 6 years..and a serious Christian since October of 1976 and no sir..my studies have not come close to that..Please don't take offence as a person..you personally are not in the witness chair only your view on Rev, 13..is and I personally do not agree with it..Israel is not part of any beast..
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