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Old 06-27-2008, 08:40 PM   #41
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God is not a man, and man is not a God. God did not write any scripture, man wrote them every one as the Holy Ghost moved upon him to write. Man didn't inspire a single scripture, God inspired them all both Old and New Testament and told us to live by every word. It was not, is not, and will not ever be in man to direct his steps. God gave man a set of instructions by which his spiritual kingdom has, is, and will be governed. God set the whole duty of man as this, "to fear God and keep his commandments". Nothing more and nothing less, just keep his commandments. Jesus said take my yoke upon you and learn of me, for my yoke is easy and my burden is light.
Abraham believed God and it was counted unto him for righteousness. If ye be Abraham's seed, ye would do the works of Abraham.
We spend to much time worrying about who held the pen, and not enough about who was giving the dictation.
Have you read song of Songs lately ?
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Old 06-28-2008, 02:56 PM   #42
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All scripture is God breathed and yes Paul was an apostle. I would have to say he was very in contact with Jesus. Not only did he knock him off his horse and blind him Paul also learned the Word directly fromJesus and not man!





2Ti3:16



All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

What Scripture Existed when Paul wrote that ? The New Testament were not even collected or finished, when he wrote that, so teh scriptures he was referring to was the old testament.
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Act 9:3

As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him.


Act 9:4

He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?"


Act 9:5

"Who are you, Lord?" Saul asked.
"I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting," he replied.










Gal 1:11

I want you to know, brothers, that the gospel I preached is not something that man made up.


Gal 1:12

I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ.
What scripture existed when paul wrote that?
I believe Jesus left an example and a new teaching for Chritians to live by at that point in time.Jesus was livingscripturewhich died andaroseforthe message that is available to us today.IsJesus not the livingscripture thatnailed the law to the cross? Paul used scripture out of the old test. but he preached the message of Christ and considerd itthe word of God!
Are you saying that thenew testiment after Matt through Johnis not the words of God and they should not be used for instruction and gaining knowledge?
Jesus' Example was new to Gentiles and those Jews who didn't know Torah because maybe they didn't read or had access to a Torah which were hand written and very expensive in those days, so when you hear something new even though what He taught was in the Torah already it is then new to them.Plus the Rabbis and priests were teaching the law the way they saw it and not in the context it was given, much like the gospel isTaught today.

No am not saying that at all, let's keep things in context, what Paul wrote was referring to the Old testament that is all the first church had, his letters and those of the apostles came much later.
The majority of the Jews didnt even believe Jesus was the Christ and if they said he was theLaw at that point they would have been strung uplike the people of The Way.After Jesus died the scripture was written on the hearts of those who had the Holy Spirit. Is Jesus not the living Word? Did he not teach and thousands of people listen and believe while he was on the earth? Would the Disiples not have been taking notes andmemorizing what he said. I am hungery for theWayand Truth and whenGod reveals it to me I put it on paper orwrite it on good fertile soil.I just find it hard to believe that Paul and the apolstles was preaching the message of Christ Crucified in which they were instructed by Christ to preachand didnt have it down. The Christians of that time were one in spirit and in mind. Everything they did was in agreement. Why? Because they had the new scripture in their hearts. They were living a new kind of life that is documented in the New Test. not the life of the people in the Old. That is whyPaul callsChristians people of that time"The Way". It was a way of life that was different from the old. Those letters from Paul and the apostles were written while they were alive. They might not have been considered gospel by the church until much later but they were written for instruction at that time!
Written in their hearts is correct, but written and accessible to all believers it was not until years later even after the death of the Apostles, it is a historical fact.
By this scripture it seems your historical fact is wrong!




2Cr 10:9

I do not want to seem to be trying to frighten you with my letters.


2Cr 10:10

For some say, "His letters are weighty and forceful, but in person he is unimpressive and his speaking amounts to nothing."


2Cr 10:11

Such people should realize that what we are in our letters when we are absent, we will be in our actions when we are present

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I was not talking the construction of the bible. I was talking while Paul and the apostles were alive they were writing letters to the different places they had ministered. These letters were letters of instruction that were based on the new testimentteachings. They were probably not mass produced butsomebody received and preach them to the church in their area. Do I read the scripture wrong?Paul has written a letters being plural, someone has receivedthem and stated that he is pushy in his instruction, when they hear him in person he is not impressive, word has got back to Paul about this talk and he says when he gets there they will see that the power of God is real.
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I do not want to seem to be trying to frighten you with my letters.
2Cr 10:10
For some say, "His letters are weighty and forceful, but in person he is unimpressive and his speaking amounts to nothing."
2Cr 10:11
Such people should realize that what we are in our letters when we are absent, we will be in our actions when we are present
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I was not talking the construction of the bible. I was talking while Paul and the apostles were alive they were writing letters to the different places they had ministered. These letters were letters of instruction that were based on the new testimentteachings. They were probably not mass produced butsomebody received and preach them to the church in their area. Do I read the scripture wrong?Paul has written a letters being plural, someone has receivedthem and stated that he is pushy in his instruction, when they hear him in person he is not impressive, word has got back to Paul about this talk and he says when he gets there they will see that the power of God is real.
2Cr 10:9
I do not want to seem to be trying to frighten you with my letters.
2Cr 10:10
For some say, "His letters are weighty and forceful, but in person he is unimpressive and his speaking amounts to nothing."
2Cr 10:11
Such people should realize that what we are in our letters when we are absent, we will be in our actions when we are present
Yes that is Correct but the letters were not published in any book form or compiled as they are now for years of years , that was my point, So the scriptures Paul spoke about were the old testament which was what was read in synagogues where Christians Congregated at the beginning.
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Yes that is Correct but the letters were not published in any book form or compiled as they are now for years of years , that was my point, So the scriptures Paul spoke about were the old testament which was what was read in synagogues where Christians Congregated at the beginning.

It is true that the scriptures used before the New Testament was compiled and published was the Law, the Psalms, and the Prophets. Jesus fully equiped his disciples in Luke chapter 24 when he opened thier understing to these scriptures, (law, psalms, and prophets). Every where they went they preached Christ from these scriptures. The New Testament Church was established in doctrine from the Old Testament scriptures.
If one cannot preach Christ, repentance, baptism, the infilling of the Holy Ghost, worship, and christian conduct from the Old Testament, he isn't a preacher at all.
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