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Old 06-28-2008, 11:36 AM   #51
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I'm still muddling through this yet ,but it appears that CO2 ppm is definitely on the rise and the curve I see is not what we want.There also appears to be a correlation between that and temp. Me thinks it is going to get warm. if someone has a website that will produce stats to refute that let me know. The studies I saw on the "core"show we will be way outside the norm. Like I say I am muddling through this. One of you experts could steer me in the right direction it would be appreciated.
The trouble with the CO2 ppm is that we don't know which happens first... the rise in temp or the rise in CO2. Is the rise in temp due to higher CO2, or is the rise in CO2 due to higher temps & more vegetation.
Now that is an interesting question. Kudos!!
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:40 PM   #52
 
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Data I looked at, if I read in correctly, said that through 80's-90's there was reduced constraint on plant growth....and the vegies grew . Do you agree with this or have data I can look at to refute it. Is this what all the gas is about? I just never got interested until today.......go figure.
I saw some regional differences. But what I am saying is very reasonable from the info.
Sorry if this is a rehash. If it is I will drop it.
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Old 06-28-2008, 03:53 PM   #53
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This was before my time but wasnt there a "big global cooling" scare?

Now its warming.

I don't really care, but I know Alot of old timers the world was diffirent a few years ago.
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Everything was cleaner.

My dad grew up in daily city in the 50s(SF, california) He told he you could catch big stripers all the time off the surf, lots of ducks and doves, now its just one big giant crappy city.

and I hear stories similar to my dads all the time.

and frankley its sad.


regaurdless of wether GW is good or bad or caused by humans, **** is melting.
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Old 06-29-2008, 05:03 PM   #54
 
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I'm still muddling through this yet ,but it appears that CO2 ppm is definitely on the rise and the curve I see is not what we want.There also appears to be a correlation between that and temp. Me thinks it is going to get warm. if someone has a website that will produce stats to refute that let me know. The studies I saw on the "core"show we will be way outside the norm. Like I say I am muddling through this. One of you experts could steer me in the right direction it would be appreciated.
The trouble with the CO2 ppm is that we don't know which happens first... the rise in temp or the rise in CO2. Is the rise in temp due to higher CO2, or is the rise in CO2 due to higher temps & more vegetation.
More vegetation would certainly not cause a rise in CO2 levels and in factwould probably cause atmospheric CO2 to decrease. Unlike animals, plant respiration consists of absorbing CO2 from the atmosphere and then releasingoxygen into the air.
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Old 06-29-2008, 06:30 PM   #55
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You have to remember that drastic climate change is not new. The place where I am sitting right now was, about 20,000 years ago, covered by a huge glacier which, in it's going and coming, left the Great Lakes region behind.
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ore vegetation would certainly not cause a rise in CO2 levels and in fact would probably cause atmospheric CO2 to decrease. Unlike animals, plant respiration consists of absorbing CO2 from the atmosphere and then releasing oxygen into the air.
Some places actually planting forest sinks


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You have to remember that drastic climate change is not new. The place where I am sitting right now was, about 20,000 years ago, covered by a huge glacier which, in it's going and coming, left the Great Lakes region behind.
yep, I live in drumlins. Short or long term my point is the stats I see are indicating that we are going to see a rise in temp. The two curves are very similar. The date on CO2 does not appear to be as valid from a statistical standpoint..Using some dirty stats and a little reason it is very suggestive, and to write it off would be a very bad mistake. Of course that is just a opinion from a short study. I was looking for good places to check out my opinion, to prove or disprove. The whole debate has become political and now religious. Thanks to Mt Gore[:@]
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