Snooky,
I do believe when Christ was on the cross and said."It is finished ..that is when the the law was fulfilled..
If all was fulfilled, why his burial? why his ressurection? Why did he forbid the women to touch him on that ressurection morning saying, for I have not assended to my Father? Yet later the same day he commanded Thomas to touch him? Why were the disciples commanded to tarry in Jerusalem until Pentecost? The truth is that there were somethings contained in the law that were not fulfilled, and some today are yet to be fulfilled. The law was a working model of the true Tabernacle in heaven. A study of the working model will quickly reveal Gods plan for salvation, for the church, and for prophecy yet to come. When we understand the logos, we will understand what Jesus was saying.
1 Cor 2:9-14 The things of God are revealed by the Spirit. Ecc 3 says there is a time for every purpose under the sun. When Gods time is come, The Holy Ghost removes the vail of darkness and allows to light to shine in the hearts of his saints. Surely the Lord God will do nothing except he reveal his secret unto his servants the prophets.
Now if all was fulfilled on the cross, why did Paul say that there remaineth a rest? How there remain anything that has already transpired? How can that which was fulfilled, be said to remain in the future?
Can it be denied that the Apostles established the New Testament church doctrine from the teaching of the Old Testament?
The Old Testament feast of Tabernacles pointed clearly to a time when satin would be bound and cast into the pit. Has that happened? We will rule and reign with him for 1000 years. Has that happened?
There is a real problem reconciling the scriptures if ALL is fulfilled. The law contained much more than the sacrificial offering.
Jesus said it is finished meaning he had completed the work the father had given him to do in his earthly temple. Not all was fullfilled. He did nail the law to the cross. The Law is still there the Jews are not under it if they choose to follow Christ and the only hope of the Gentiles is to follow Christ due to the law being only for Isreal. Nobody can be righteous by the law. Those who choose to live by the law are cursed. Snooky you are correct when you say the law of Christ is more strict than the Law that was given to Moses for Isreal. The law of Christ is living by the spirit as Christ lived. It is total denial of self and serving othersin love in which if you live this way the original law will be kept. The sabbath rest Paul speaks of is a spiritual rest in the Spirit that is here and we should all find it. There is still Word to be fullfilled but it is getting close to the end.
All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."[fn3]
Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey"whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?
For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want.
But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.
I think you are Correct again, One thing I must point out in Messianic Judaism(Christian Jews) We call the Messiah the Living Torah(Law) , so when Yeshua was nailed to the cross ,literally the Law was nailed to the Cross.
Without the Law there wouldn't be redemption or means of redemption, whenhe was nailed to the cross the original purpose of the law was finished and Fulfilled.
But it wasn't done away with as Christ is still the word of God(Torah) in The Flesh, He himself is not done away with.
Was that too hard to understand ?
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
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Snooky,
I do believe when Christ was on the cross and said."It is finished ..that is when the the law was fulfilled..
If all was fulfilled, why his burial? why his ressurection? Why did he forbid the women to touch him on that ressurection morning saying, for I have not assended to my Father? Yet later the same day he commanded Thomas to touch him? Why were the disciples commanded to tarry in Jerusalem until Pentecost? The truth is that there were somethings contained in the law that were not fulfilled, and some today are yet to be fulfilled. The law was a working model of the true Tabernacle in heaven. A study of the working model will quickly reveal Gods plan for salvation, for the church, and for prophecy yet to come. When we understand the logos, we will understand what Jesus was saying.
1 Cor 2:9-14 The things of God are revealed by the Spirit. Ecc 3 says there is a time for every purpose under the sun. When Gods time is come, The Holy Ghost removes the vail of darkness and allows to light to shine in the hearts of his saints. Surely the Lord God will do nothing except he reveal his secret unto his servants the prophets.
Now if all was fulfilled on the cross, why did Paul say that there remaineth a rest? How there remain anything that has already transpired? How can that which was fulfilled, be said to remain in the future?
Can it be denied that the Apostles established the New Testament church doctrine from the teaching of the Old Testament?
The Old Testament feast of Tabernacles pointed clearly to a time when satin would be bound and cast into the pit. Has that happened? We will rule and reign with him for 1000 years. Has that happened?
There is a real problem reconciling the scriptures if ALL is fulfilled. The law contained much more than the sacrificial offering.
Jesus said it is finished meaning he had completed the work the father had given him to do in his earthly temple. Not all was fullfilled. He did nail the law to the cross. The Law is still there the Jews are not under it if they choose to follow Christ and the only hope of the Gentiles is to follow Christ due to the law being only for Isreal. Nobody can be righteous by the law. Those who choose to live by the law are cursed. Snooky you are correct when you say the law of Christ is more strict than the Law that was given to Moses for Isreal. The law of Christ is living by the spirit as Christ lived. It is total denial of self and serving othersin love in which if you live this way the original law will be kept. The sabbath rest Paul speaks of is a spiritual rest in the Spirit that is here and we should all find it. There is still Word to be fullfilled but it is getting close to the end.
All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."[fn3]
Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey"whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?
For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want.
But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.
I think you are Correct again, One thing I must point out in Messianic Judaism(Christian Jews) We call the Messiah the Living Torah(Law) , so when Yeshua was nailed to the cross ,literally the Law was nailed to the Cross.
Without the Law there wouldn't be redemption or means of redemption, whenhe was nailed to the cross the original purpose of the law was finished and Fulfilled.
But it wasn't done away with as Christ is still the word of God(Torah) in The Flesh, He himself is not done away with.
Was that too hard to understand ?
Nope! That was as clear as a bottle of purified little wabash river water. Thanks KB! God has blessed you with wisdom.
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