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Old 05-28-2008, 10:50 PM   #1
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How do we establish God's/The Bible/The Word of God'sAuthority?

God told Noah to build the Ark out of Gopher Wood. Would Pine, Oak, Birch have Worked?

The very Fact that God does not like disobediance. Should we take a Chance?
Eve ate some Fruit after God said not to, for that Death intered into the World.

The one guy who just tryed to balance the Ark. But, God said not to, and Struck him Dead.

The Two Priests who Offered Strange Fire and were Killed.

The Man and Woman who lied about giving and Died.

Is Athuority important? Must we have Athuority for things we do in the church?

I am told their are 3 ways to Establish Athuority.

(1) Command

(2) Example

(3) Direct Inference

Do you know any other?

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Old 05-29-2008, 06:41 AM   #2
 
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True authority is from God through Jesus Christ and is only found in the Bible, not the COC hand book.
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Old 05-29-2008, 08:29 AM   #3
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True authority is from God through Jesus Christ and is only found in the Bible, not the COC hand book.

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Old 05-29-2008, 09:06 AM   #4
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TF, I agree that we need to find where Gods bounderies for christian living are set. You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. Will the 2000 + years of man setting forth his opinions, the truth has gotten lost in the shuffle, but is still available for those who will pay the price to find it. Buy the truth and sell it not!

A couple of things that pop into my mind would be:

I am told their are 3 ways to Establish Athuority.

(1) Command
When God gives a command to the people, (all mankind) and addresses it a a statute forever, or an everlasting covenant, does he then do away with it?, If God adds to, or perfects a weaker covenant, does it desolve the first covenant? If the second is weaker, does it draw strength from the first?
As you see I am getting back to the thought of My thread that questions the setting of some scriptures above others.
Here is my point. Abraham was justified by faith. God then gave the law to Moses. What did that do with the covenant of faith? Didn't Israel fail in keeping the law because they failed to excercise the covenant of Faith? and sought it strickly by works? The law was a series of object lessons to bring us unto Christ. Christ came and fulfilled the sacrificial law. He didn't come to destroy the law. If the law needed faith for its fulfilment, do we not need the truths of the law, and the faith of Abraham in order to attain the full and complete knowledge that sets men free in this New Testament day and time? Do we not need to live by every word of God, regardless of when and where it was spoken? Doesn't the fact that God saw to it that if found its way into the Holy Writ, declare its importance to mankind through the ages?

(2) Example
One must be careful lest he reads something into an example that isn't there. Judas, hand picked and chosen, one of the 12, hanged himself. An example of the Apostles performing an act, setting us an example? Peter denied the Lord for convienience sake, an example for us to follow? Some examples of conversion in Acts failed to mention by name, "repentance", or some, "baptism". The examples used must agree with the word of God which is forever settled in Heaven.

(3) Direct Inference
Define "direct inference". It sound very much as an open door for mans interpretations.

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Hello Rev,

Here is my point. I believe that Christ doesn't not want us to dance around the truth so not to "offend" others. If it sounds like a dog and barks like a dog and moves it's tail like a dog, then it is a dog.

Many of you on here avoid the truth that the COC people don't believe you are saved b/c you are "outside the true church."

I dare you and anyone else to ask this direct question to the COC members on here.

ask them, "Do I have to be a member of 'YOUR' church to be saved?"
ask them, "Do you believe 'YOUR' church is the only 'TRUE' church?"

If they are honest, they will tell you that they teach they are the only true church and the only ones going to heaven. Thus, when they smile and act like they are your buddies on here, they have their fingers crossed behind their backs. Why not be bold and stand up for the TRUTH rather than entertain them???
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Old 05-29-2008, 11:42 AM   #6
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Unfortunately there are many here I don't agree with, however bashing is not tolerated,regardless ifwe like it or not.
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Unfortunately there are many here I don't agree with, however bashing is not tolerated,regardless ifwe like it or not.
Your are correct, however, I am not bashing. Just speaking the truth. Isn't "truth" what we are suppose to seek on here? And truth is telling all that you believe.
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What's COC ?
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What's COC ?
It seems like it is an abbreviation for a church of christ?
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What's COC ?
It seems like it is an abbreviation for a church of christ?
I thought it meant crocodile on Crack ! thanks
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