Todd Bentley In Lakeland

[vaslugger]

After much prayer I felt the Lord urging me to
make this post.How can so many of you attack
a man you know very little about who is called
to minister the gospel of Jesus to the lost and to
pray for the sick for healing.This man has traveled
to over 65 countries and led over 1 million souls
to Christ and we should not be attacking him but
praying for him.I have watched him for over two
weeks on God TV and have never heard him pray
to angels but only to the Lord Jesus Christ for the
healing and salvation of people.This man is on fire
for the Lord and is a born again Christian is truly
has an annointing on his life.Just because he has
a big gut and tattos so what so does most of those
that live in America.God choose liars,prostitutes,
murders,tax collectors,fisherman and the most
least likely so if he wants to use a man with tattos
and earrings with a gut who are we to condemn
him.God has worked thru this man to help heal the
deaf the blind,the paralayzed,MS,terminal cancer,
tumors and many other types of diseases and many
of these have been absolutely confirmed by many
medical doctors.Not everyone got healed right then
but he never gave up praying for them as he said
that it is not always healed immediately.Yes he saw
an angel and it appeared to him but 5 years ago I
also saw one that appeared to me and it was not a
Holy angel and stole 4 years of my life from me
but God brought me back to him self last year
after coming to this forum a lot.I study the Bible
like never before and I need a physical healing
also and if I could afford to go to Florida I would
to this crusade.Even the 700 Club did a story on
this and verified that the miracles are documented
and true.Broadcast in 214 countries and people
from all over the world fly in and are healed thru
this ministry as Jesus moves thru the Holy Spirit.
The Bible said this will happen and when it does
will we all be doubting just like the pharsises did
in the day of Jesus.Jesus said that he will seperate
the wheat from the tares and if Todd Bentley is
wrong then God will judge him not me as God said
to pray for our brothers in Christ.Sorry if I offend
anyone but this bashing needs to stop as we need
to pray for Gods outpouring of salvation and the
healing Jesus said would happen! Mike

[Kosherboy]

The article about him and what he has said, is found in wikipidia Todd Bentley, take it up with them.
Matthew 7
20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock

[Kosherboy]

In some of the most unexpected places we are confronted by a revival of the old tribal practices of body scarification, body piercing and body mutilation. Nose rings, eyebrow rings, belly rings, tongue studs, multiple earrings, nipple rings, tattoos and other disfigurements are more than an identifiable sub-culture - it is all part of an aggressive fashion statement which is challenging the Christian Church.
"Do not cut your bodies"¦or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the Lord. " Leviticus 19:28
Unfortunately, most Church leaders have remained silent on this practice, even while some youth leaders and Bible College students are giving themselves over to body modification.
As Christians, we are called to be holy, set apart and different from the world, consecrated to God. "Everybody's doing it" is hardly an argument to justify Christian involvement. The very fact that pagans practice body piercing should be a compelling enough argument against Christians being conformed to the world. (Romans 12:1-2)
The Scriptures are clear that we must treat our bodies with respect, they are not our own to do with as we wish. They belong to God, who made them and who purchased them with His own blood. Our bodies are to be temples of the Holy Spirit. We are to glorify God with our bodies (1 Corinthians 3:16-18 ; 6:15,19-20)
On the other hand, the Bible records how pagans abused their bodies. The false prophets of Baal "slashed themselves with swords and spears, as was their custom until their blood flowed." (1 Kings 18:28). The demon possessed man of Gadara cut himself with stones and ran around naked (Mark 5:5).
It was the custom of the Ishmaelite men to wear gold earrings. (Judges 8:24). Biblically, a pierced ear is a public indication of permanent slavery (Exodus 21:6, 32:1-3).
Part of the Biblical description of a harlot is that "she decked herself with rings and jewellery "¦ but Me she forgot, declares the Lord." (Hosea 2:13).
To draw attention to ourselves with these excessive fashion statements is hardly in keeping with the Biblical commands to be humble and modest (Proverbs 21:4; 1 Timothy 2:9-10, 1 Peter 3:3-4).
After God spoke to Jacob, he instructed his household to get rid of their idols and purify themselves. Along with their stone idols, they buried their earrings (Genesis 35:2).
Our bodies matter. They are to be presented to God as holy offerings - in a way that pleases God. We are not to follow the example of the pagans. Making holes in our bodies is hardly respecting them as temples of the Holy Spirit. Permanently disfiguring our bodies is blatant rebellion against our Creator and Redeemer.
The present obsession of many with body modification is a revival of tribalism. It involves a painful initiation rite, which produces an identification with a certain tribe, clan or sub-culture. The history of body modification is evidenced all over the world wherever animism and spiritism has been the religion.
The Kacipo people in Sudan stretch their lower lips to fit a saucer-sized pottery and they stretch their ear lobes to create huge holes and long earlobes. Amongst the Nuba tribes in Sudan, multiple earrings, nose rings, body scarification and body painting are prevalent. The Dinka and Nuer tribes in Sudan are easily identifiable by the pattern of scars across their foreheads.
Amongst the Hindus - nose studs, belly rings, toe rings, tongue studs and eyebrow rings are common. Tattoos amongst the Amazon tribes identify the various members of a given tribe. In Papau New Guinea, all kinds of body scarification, tattoos and body mutilation distinguish the various tribes.
Among the tribes in Borneo, tattooing is mainly associated with head hunting (a visible sign of success) for men and the coming of age of women - in some cases it symbolizes their social status. Tattoos are part of the "rites of passage."
A pagan view on the subject: "A tattoo is a complex signifier: it signals class; it signals sexuality; and it has specific content as a signifier: a depiction of an animal, a person, an abstract tribal design. The most usual motifs are signifiers of power and masculinity... But what the tattoo signals above all is the power one seizes over one's own body"¦ To be branded or tattooed shows also that you have the requisite guts to join the group...it serves as a sign of pain and hence of resolution." (Crispen Sartwell) To put this in simple terms. It is a form of autonomy (self law) which is idolatry.
"Tattooing is often a magical rite in the more traditional cultures, and the tattooist is respected as a priest or shaman." (Michelle Delio, Tattoo: The Exotic Art of Skin Decoration) And in the same way, eyebrow rings, nose rings, multiple earrings, nipple rings, belly rings and tongue studs distinguish identifiable sub-cultures in New York, London, Paris and other capitals of what is meant to be civilization ("The look on their faces testifies agaist them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves." Isaiah 3:9)
The irony is that while so many Westerners rush into new age religions, body piercing and occultism, many millions in the tribes mentioned in Africa, South America, Asia and the Pacific islands, are being converted to Christ and are abandoning the body piercing practices of their pagan past. It is very clear who are the Christians and who are the pagans in these mission fields. The pagans wear little or no clothing and they engage in a variety of body scarification, body piercing and/or tattoos. On the other hand, the Christians are easily identifiable - they wear clothes and they don't engage in any body modification. Repentance has always been the response of pagan people when they've embraced the Gospel of Christ (Deuteronomy 6:13-21).
Of course, some older people will still have the scars and the holes - testimony of the pagan past before they were converted - but all earrings, eyebrow rings, nose rings and such like have been removed. And their children are free from these pagan disfigurements. It is unheard of in these areas for Christians to voluntarily pierce or tattoo their bodies (Deuteronomy 14:1-2). In fact, they are shocked when Western men visit them with ponytails and earrings.
As so many Christians have immersed themselves in pagan music, immoral videos and worldly amusements, it should not surprise us that so many of our youth are indistinguishable from their non-Christian friends (James 4:4). The mind-rotting, brain-numbing, soul-destroying trash that fills the ears, eyes and minds of our youth should be sufficient explanation for the backslidden, immoral and un-Christian behaviour, which now even includes professing Christians disfiguring their bodies with pagan piercings (Romans 3:18).
It is time for youth leaders and pastors to study what the Scripture teaches on this subject and then to boldly, and without compromise, preach on these passages and call those people who are defiling their bodies to repent. We need to take God's Word seriously.
"Let us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, perfecting holiness out of reverence for God." 2 Corinthians 7:1
Other useful verses: Leviticus 21:5-6, 1 Peter 2:9, Galatians 5:13, 1 Peter 2:16, Galatians 5:1, 1 Peter 2:11, Psalm 36:2, Lamentations 3:40, Galatians 2:20, 1 Thessalonians 5:23
This article is a condensed version of a pamphlet on Body Piercing. You may also order a stunning PowerPoint presentation developed by Peter Hammond, to show to school and youth groups, from Africa Christian Action.

[vaslugger]

Kosherboy-Have you ever seen him live or ever
heard his message at all.I doubt it very much as
all you can do is google something off wikepedia
and cut and paste it and condemn him.He got those
tattos before he came to Christ and he was also a
drug addict who God delivered from that awful
addiction.So in your eyes being born again means
nothing then?So the apostle Paul was a murderer
so why dont you cut and paste something about
him.And Abraham lied so why dont you also paste
something about liars?No man is perfect that is
why Jesus died for the sins of all people and that
also includes me and Todd Bentley!If a group of
born again christians riding Harleys and wearing
bandannas came to your church and brought their
Bibles and prayed and worshipped and then also
fellowshipped with you would you also try and find
something wrong with them to because of the way
they dressed and rode a Harley!For the Jew and the
Gentile there is only one way to God and that is thru JESUS CHRIST only and him alone.This forum
has way to much bickering and that is what the
enemy of our souls wants to do is to divide the
Body of Christ!You can cut down some one all you
want but if God has annointed this man as it seems
to be evident then far be it from me to touch or to
put down Gods annointing on a man of God.Yes
we discern the spirit but in doing so you are not
to try and convict him and destroy what God has
placed upon a man as then you will have to be
accountable to God for that!Every man and woman
will stand before God and if someone thinks they
can get away from it because youtube or the
wickpedia website said it they will be sadly
mistaken as God told us to search the scriptures
not the internetfor when the internet is relplaced
with something better the Bible will still be going
strong.So I say be careful in how we Judge
someone to quickly as we should leave that to the
Lord God as he will seperate the wheat from the
tares or we would certainly damage them. Mike

[Chuck7]

Sorry Mike,
But I was there..and I have experienced a few super natural expereinces ..and this one has too many holes in it..It has many elements of New Age...and I don't care who supports it...if it goes against the Word then you have to leave it..We are to try the Spirits ...and I did..

Mike I would never do anything to offend you my brother..and I don'[t judge other brothers and sisters in Christ..BUT we are told by Jesus to judge teachers ..and warn others when something is wrong..I went there with an open heart and had my hands raised in worship..I was expecting a miracle..but my friend..there was just too many things against sound doctrine to ignor..This will be my last comment regarding this..I do not take pleasuse in writing this ..
Sincerely,
Chuck7

[Snooky]

Isaiah 8:20 says it all, "To the law and to the testamony, if they speak not according to this law, there is no light in them". Nuff said.

[Kosherboy]

ORIGINAL: vaslugger

Kosherboy-Have you ever seen him live or ever
heard his message at all.I doubt it very much as
all you can do is google something off wikepedia
and cut and paste it and condemn him.He got those
tattos before he came to Christ and he was also a
drug addict who God delivered from that awful
addiction.So in your eyes being born again means
nothing then?So the apostle Paul was a murderer
so why dont you cut and paste something about
him.And Abraham lied so why dont you also paste
something about liars?No man is perfect that is
why Jesus died for the sins of all people and that
also includes me and Todd Bentley!If a group of
born again christians riding Harleys and wearing
bandannas came to your church and brought their
Bibles and prayed and worshipped and then also
fellowshipped with you would you also try and find
something wrong with them to because of the way
they dressed and rode a Harley!For the Jew and the
Gentile there is only one way to God and that is thru JESUS CHRIST only and him alone.This forum
has way to much bickering and that is what the
enemy of our souls wants to do is to divide the
Body of Christ!You can cut down some one all you
want but if God has annointed this man as it seems
to be evident then far be it from me to touch or to
put down Gods annointing on a man of God.Yes
we discern the spirit but in doing so you are not
to try and convict him and destroy what God has
placed upon a man as then you will have to be
accountable to God for that!Every man and woman
will stand before God and if someone thinks they
can get away from it because youtube or the
wickpedia website said it they will be sadly
mistaken as God told us to search the scriptures
not the internetfor when the internet is relplaced
with something better the Bible will still be going
strong.So I say be careful in how we Judge
someone to quickly as we should leave that to the
Lord God as he will seperate the wheat from the
tares or we would certainly damage them. Mike

Yes I have heard him live and walked out,like Chuck did.
I also walked out of John Wesley Fletcher in Pompano Beach, two weeks later he confessed to having homosexual relations with Jim Baker of the PTL Club, I had supported John Wesley and his Miracle Campaigns, so I have developed a 7th sense about people, I also stop communicating with Benny Hinn ,whomI know from Childhood.

I do not Judge his tattoos as you said he acquired them before he said he knew Christ, but studs in his forehead and bottom lip ? I don't care about his pot belly I have one myself.
But teaching that an angel named Emma appears to him, What kind of angel is named Emma, what is the meaning of that Name ? All angels carry God's Name "EL" so is this a heavenly angel that brings him Gold ?[&:]

Look seek Christ and not a man, you need healing ? God is "The Healer" and he can heal you right there where you are now, if you ask him.
"Ask and you shall receive, seek and you will find, If a child ask his Father for bread would he given him a snake" ?