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Old 04-28-2008, 08:05 PM   #1
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In Exodus 12:38 We are told of a "mixed multitude" of folk who left Egypt. Beside the Jews, what peoples accompanied them on their exodus? Would these have also kept the first Passover in Egypt?
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The Hyksos and some Egyptians who had inter married with the Hebrews and Syrians.
Janes a high priest of ammon , who was probably responsible for instigating the Jews to makethe golden Calf god.....

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Interesting question. Pretty sure that there were some hangers on that were just more than glad to get out of Dodge due to the devastation that had occured. But surely there were some that were not Jews that had somehow become part of a Jewish household thru intrmarriage, servitude, or maybe being proselitized. In which case they probably did partake of the Passover.
Hey, I'm just participating , I recall instructions that I seem remember as being given for future Passover observance that included servants that had been circumsized. This is an Alex question . . .my guess is yes.
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Let's broaden the subject a little more. Abraham was justified by faith. Prior to that time there was no Jews, so at this time,salvation was not of the Jews. The mixed multitude left Egypt. On the day of Pentecost, there were jews and gentiles among the number. During these times, was there one way of salvation for the Jews, and another way for the Gentiles, Or was there just one way, door, gate, path, plan, ect?
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Israel had some strangers in their land (verse19) who caused trouble along the way..mostly they were what would be called riff raff..most of Israel's troubles came from these unsaved people..and part of them were Egyptians..like a lot of our churches today having murmurers and disenters in the congregation..
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It seems to me Snooky that any time a non Jew recieved any of the blessings of God it was due initially to his association with the people that were God's chosen. God told Abraham "I will bless them that bless thee and curse them that curse thee."
There was Ruth(Your people shall be my people and your God shall be my God),who was a Moabite who is in the line of David and therfor of Christ. The fact that it was in God's plan to offer salvation to all peoples show that there never was a time that we wer'nt in the plan of God.
There was the harlot Rahab, who was in Jericho, and was perished not with those who believed not. I believe the bible says she was justified by works in blessing the messengers.
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Let's broaden the subject a little more. Abraham was justified by faith. Prior to that time there was no Jews, so at this time,salvation was not of the Jews. The mixed multitude left Egypt. On the day of Pentecost, there were jews and gentiles among the number. During these times, was there one way of salvation for the Jews, and another way for the Gentiles, Or was there just one way, door, gate, path, plan, ect?
We might have to broaden the understanding of Salvation for the Jew and the gentile a bit.

Salvation for the Jew was not understood as it is today, all the promises of the Law wereEarthly promises, so salvation meant salvation of the flesh and the spirit was saved by grace of God, the Jew does not worry too much about hell as Christians do, as a matter of fact Orthodox Jews do not believe in a hell with an eternal punishment, they believe a Jew could be sent to hell temporarily to atone for something he did wrong, but eventually he would be going to paradise, it might be the Catholic Purgatory Idea came from Judaism.

Jesus taught about the rich and Lazarus taken to different places but close to each other, Paradise in one side and Gehenna on the other, but Jesus never said the rich would be punish forever.
Although he also spoke of eternal damnation, but is that for the average sinner or is that for those who willingly aligned with Satan ?
Those things I leave to God to Judge, I don't think the answer is in the bible, there are things that must be left to God's sovereignty.

Hell was taught By Jesus and He mentioned hell more than heaven, up to that point the Jews didn't think much about being able to Go to Hell.
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Israel had some strangers in their land (verse19) who caused trouble along the way..mostly they were what would be called riff raff..most of Israel's troubles came from these unsaved people..and part of them were Egyptians..like a lot of our churches today having murmurers and disenters in the congregation..
The Hyksos and some Egyptians who had inter married with the Hebrews and Syrians.
Janes a high priest of ammon , who was probably responsible for instigating the Jews to makethe golden Calf god.....
Yes as I said before;
The Hyksos were also slaves who came from unspecified areas where Egypt had venture to and taken them prisoners and were living among the Hebrew Slaves, so they also left when they saw the Hebrews leaving, this is all taught in the midrash.
They caused much trouble to Moses.
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KB; I enjoy your posts. They are always informative. I may not always agree 100% but I do learn much from the different approach, and also the Jewish customs.
Bro Mac, I agree that one gets nowhere if he is fighting against those that God has blessed. Numbers 23:8 Balaam couldn't curse those that God had blessed, and couldn't defy whom the Lord had not defied. He that is not for us, is against us. Regardless of the race, place chosen to worship, if God is for him, we need to use caution before we try to defy are withstand, lest we be found to fight against God.
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