Romans 7
1Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
2For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
3So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
4Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. 6But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
II Cor. 3:
6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
8How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
9For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
10For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
11For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
12Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: 14But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. 16Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
TF; You raise a good question. If the law was fulfilled in the measure some believe, then we today would be free from the do's and don'ts placed upon the people by Moses. Paul spoke here that the law "hath" as present tense, not "had" as past tense, dominion over a manAS LONG as he liveth. If these New Testament believers were still bound by the law until death, that would put a new meaning to James 2:10.
Jesus speaking"I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." Jesus upholds and reinforces the absolute authority of God"s laws. Jesus said that heaven and earth would disappear sooner than the smallest letter of the Law would disappear.
"Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven." We are not free from the consequences of breaking God's law. The least in the kingdom of heaven (i.e., those who are least honored) are those who despise God"s word and the demands of God"s laws.
"For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."
Paul May say whatever Paul wants to say to Gentiles who were never bound by The Law to begin with,That chapter altered to say he was speaking to Jews is not so in the septuagin.
If you are a gentile you are not bound by the Law ,that was decided in the council of Jerusalem, gentiles are only to obey a few of the Noachide laws.
So why worry about it.
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
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If Jesus is God in the flesh, then God's commands are Jesus' commands, and Jesus spoke and said that to see the Father you had to keep His commands. Now we could ask who " His " means. Is Jesus referring to His own commands, or to Gods commands, by saying we must keep His commands? Either way, the 10 commandments are still in effect, since all things are not yet fulfilled.
Peace be with you
MET
And Alex, I understand what you are saying about us Gentiles, but as I see it, there is nothing " bad " in the laws, so if it is good enough for the chosen people of God then maybe I could bare to go along with it.... it will not hurt me to follow, and it just might make me a better person / Christian.
God gave a law to Moses on Sinai upon which all of the subjects in Gods Kingdom were to abide, then, now, and in the future. The conclusion is that to be a citizen of Gods Kingdom, one must believe that God is. One must believe God has a Kingdom. One must believe that God rules, and we are his subjects and bound by the laws of the King who rules the Kingdom. Not some of them, but all of the laws he has made.
The finger of God wrote the law on tables of stone which was for that time. A future time was spoken of when the tables of stone was going to be replaced with the same laws then being written upon the fleshly table of our hearts. Not a weaking, watering down, or slacking of the old law, but a strengthing of that law. The tables of stone contained the letter of the law, the law written on the fleshly tables of our hearts contains the Spirit of those laws. Murder now is committed when we entertain the thought. Adulty is committed by thinking. The sabbath wasn't made less holy! Everyday is now an holy day. The Gentiles and the Jews both must have the law in their hearts and keep it that we sin not.
What is the whole duty of man? Fear God and keep his commandments.
Ro2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
I can only speak for myself. But, it's the Sabbath Day, Which is Saturday, the Seventh Day of the Week. I Worship on the 1St. Day of the week which is Sunday. If it were not for the Christ Dieing for me. I would need to Worship on Saturday. However, as the Bible teaches Old Covenat is for our learning.
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Either way, the 10 commandments are still in effect
Galatians 5
1Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen fromgrace.
MET... I don't think I even need to say anything if you read the post.
Is the Ten Commandments Binding Today?
