To begin with , I think this is alot of our problem on here.
Let's look at the mind set from a person who believes their church type is the only way.. a. Their goal is to win you over ..done in love of course to keep you from perishing. b. to open your eyes to the correct interpretation of the Word. c. there can never be no real fellowship because we wouldn't want anyone to get a false sense of security when deep down we beleive you are lost. d. Folks are judged by their theological views no matter how much fruit they bare..
Now let's look at the mindset of those who beleive there are many differnt denominations and church groups who will reside in Heaven...and that would be the position I hold. a. I can have fellowship with just about any church people..I judge not according to your theological views but your fruit.IF you are a Christian.Our fellowship is not limitedby our personal theological views b.My goal ..to develop a friendship where we can come ot a place to encourage one another. c. I have no intention of persuading you to follow my theological beleifs..If I thought you were in error or vice a vera..the trust we've developed can would allow discussion later in a fishing boat or phone call..
To the answer to the thread question no..I persanally beleive there will be Catholics, Baptist, Methodist etc. in Heaven..Did the 'Good Samaritan' have his doctrine right..no..and yet Jesus said."Go and do thou likewise." Obedience is far more important I beleive than attending the 'Right church'. What are we to obey.. To love God with all your heart and to love your neighbor as yourself. Gal. 5:14For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
This to me is a "red flag" thread because it's seemingly destined to cause division at this time. But to answer the question, no I don't feel that my particular sect can say only ourselves will be saved. None of us has made it yet, but I do believe that if we have Christ in us that He will not lead us astray. It's all about Jesus the Christ who supercedes the folly that dwells in man's mind.
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This to me is a "red flag" thread because it's seemingly destined to cause division at this time. Wrong again Leaf..But to answer the question, no I don't feel that my particular sect can say only ourselves will be saved. good ..there are no hidden motives..there are none.None of us has made it yet, but I do believe that if we have Christ in us that He will not lead us astray. Amen..that is in John 8:3IIt's all about Jesus the Christ who supercedes the folly that dwells in man's mind.
Well, although I agree with Mac about the flag, here's my POV.
I don't believe the name over the door gets you into, or keeps you out of, heaven. On the other hand, I don't believe we are free to choose our own path either.
Christ saidthe gate is straight and the path is narrow, and few will there be that enter therein. Matthew 7:13,14
Christ said that not everyone that calls on Him will enter into heaven, even if they have cast out demons, prophesied, and done many great works in His name. Matthew 7:20-22
Christ said the only way into heaven was through Him. John 14:6
Christ said that we have to participate in our salvation by seeking Him. Matthew 7:7,8 and Luke 11:9, 10
Of course I don't base what I believe on just a few verses, but those are a start.
Chad
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"We can have no '50-50' allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all."-- Theodore Roosevelt
A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Ecclesiasties 10:2
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
Well, although I agree with Mac about the flag,
Chad
My question is why a red flag.? When I talk about seeing Jesus I know no one will beleive me but I tryto sow a spark to some that ..He is very near to us and has not left us..
On the other hand if I sincerely bleieved that my church was the only true church I would invite a thread like this.An opportunity to tell why.I beleive such.Most on here Chad can debate very maturely ..it's only a few who mess it up for the rest of us.True Christians should be able to discuss anything.
If I beleived that my church was the only church I'd be posting a lot of scripyres to back it up.I'm mature enough to read and let it go..I have been helped by some in the past by reading things that changed my views..such as some things I read from Dabowhunter..they just flat out made sense..BUT if you are still inclinedto delete it..so be it.You have the final say for sure.
I don't believe the name over the door gets you into, or keeps you out of, heaven. Amern agreed.On the other hand, I don't believe we are free to choose our own path either...me neither.but .I would say we have all chosen a path that we feel is in line with scripture..to the best of our interpretation.,
Christ saidthe gate is straight and the path is narrow, and few will there be that enter therein. Matthew 7:13,14 Amen..Chad..I beleive here He is not referring to having your theology correct but more obedience..
Christ said that not everyone that calls on Him will enter into heaven, even if they have cast out demons, prophesied, and done many great works in His name. Matthew 7:20-22 Amen..most diffently
Christ said the only way into heaven was through Him. John 14:6 yes sir...when I mentioned acceptance I was referring to sincere Christian evengelical churches..
Christ said that we have to participate in our salvation by seeking Him. Matthew 7:7,8 and Luke 11:9, 10 Yes sir..I agree
Of course I don't base what I believe on just a few verses, but those are a start.
Also ..as far as a red flag..that would include 75 % of the threads on here..It's not that the threads are bad..It's how folks reply to those threads..WE can find good and bad in anything .That is up to the individual..Like yo told me back in 2005 Chad..if a certain thread bothers you than don't reply. or click on it.
Because that's the path that threads like this usually take. Sooner or later someone gets angry, takes something that's said personally, etc. and tries to retalliate.
I won't do anything to it unless it goes that route, but going by the history of this board chances are it will go downhill.
Chad
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"We can have no '50-50' allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all."-- Theodore Roosevelt
A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Ecclesiasties 10:2
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
Because that's the path that threads like this usually take. Sooner or later someone gets angry, takes something that's said personally, etc. and tries to retalliate.
I won't do anything to it unless it goes that route, but going by the history of this board chances are it will go downhill.
Chad
Thanks Chad..and if it goes down hill it won't be by me..I understand where all of these guys are coming from.I know from reading the threads on works / grace alone and Oneness./ Trinity..they acually helped me in making me think Why do I beleive the way I do?? It's caused me to dig into my Bible more..
Is your church the only way to Heaven?
None of us has made it yet, but I do believe that if we have Christ in us that He will not lead us astray. Amen..that is in John 8:3IIt's all about Jesus the Christ who supercedes the folly that dwells in man's mind.
