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Old 02-28-2008, 11:29 AM   #1
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When a personaccepts Christ as their savior is that the only criteria to enter heaven? I accepted Christ back in 1990 but I failed to live by the standards of a Christian shortly after but am working real hard on that now. If I had died between then and now would I have entered Heavens Gates?I don't think I would have gone to Hell but would Heavenhave accepted me? I think so and think God would have forgave me. What is your belief?
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:11 PM   #2
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Matthew 9:13

But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.



Luke.13:1-5
[1] There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.
[2] And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
[3] I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
[4] Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
[5] I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.


John 8:20-24

[20] These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.
[21] Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
[22] Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
[23] And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
[24] I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.







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Old 02-28-2008, 12:48 PM   #3
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That is the million dollar question and the reason why so many different denonminations..

I will give you my understanding but certaily don't claim to have all the answers. I'm at school so I will only estimate where the verses are if I forget..

1. One must accept Jesus as Lord adn Savior..Romans 10
2. One must be Baptized John 3 ..
3. One must be a doer of the Word..the end of Matthew 7.
The "Doers were like those who built their house upon a rock..those who heard and didn't do were like those who built their house upon the sand and were lost."

With thatand MANY more verse ..I beleive you would be lost and be eteranally lost..which the Bible calls Hell.

HOWEVER; The Lord does all He can to help us..He drew you back "Not willing that any should perish."
WhatI don't know..
I don't know when the point is that God gives up on one..
His mercy and love is beyond man's imagination . Paul does say to make your salvation sure..and this is why I walk in the fear of God..there are many warnings of backsliding and I don't wantto take any chances..
It is true that no one is perfect but we should always be striving to be obedient in what we know is God's will.
When we fall we ask for forgiveness and He "Is faithful to forgive ALL of our sins." He is our Father. He has also given us His Spirit that convicts and guides us into all truth and righteousness...He that dwells inside of us helps us.God is always with us..
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:34 PM   #4
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Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he thatdoeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

James 2

14--What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

17--Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

19--Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

20--But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

24--Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

26--For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.


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Old 02-28-2008, 02:20 PM   #5
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That's convincing right there. I don't care who ya are.


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Old 02-28-2008, 03:13 PM   #6
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is that what you want ? to die , not one of among man kind wants to die ,all want to live on and on . so afraid of death are we that we tell our selves stories that we don't really die ,we turn into some thing else and are whisked off to a wonderful place, I'm sorry but thats not true. we die because of academic sin.
For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. 6Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they have no portion anymore to time indefinite in anything that has to be done under the sun.

Jesus promised that those in gods memory would live again ,not in heaven but here on earth and that death would be no more.

rev 21:4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away."
that is the promise and the promise is true
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IMO There is just one thing that will barr one out of heaven and that is sin. When the lost asked the Apostles, "what shall we do" they were instructed as to how to receive remission of sins, (without the shedding of blood is no remission") Repent and be baptized everyone of you in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.
Grace that bringeth salvation appears to all men, and teaches us how to live in this world. For by Grace are ye saved THROUGH faith. Contingent upon obedience to The Grace of God and its teaching. To him that knoweth to do good (taught by grace) and doeth it not (is disobedient) to him it (the disobedience) is sin. Obedient faith unto the saving grace of God as it appears unto a man will result in salvation. Rebellion is as the spirit of witchcraft and is sin, resulting in eternal torment by the choice of the individual, not the will of God.
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When a personaccepts Christ as their savior is that the only criteria to enter heaven? I accepted Christ back in 1990 but I failed to live by the standards of a Christian shortly after but am working real hard on that now. If I had died between then and now would I have entered Heavens Gates?I don't think I would have gone to Hell but would Heavenhave accepted me? I think so and think God would have forgave me. What is your belief?
My Question to you is, what did you accept about Jesus ?
Did you accept his existence.
His birth,
His death
Or that he was a great teacher and prophet
A healer
Or That he paid all your sins ?
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:35 PM   #9
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When a personaccepts Christ as their savior is that the only criteria to enter heaven? I accepted Christ back in 1990 but I failed to live by the standards of a Christian shortly after but am working real hard on that now. If I had died between then and now would I have entered Heavens Gates?I don't think I would have gone to Hell but would Heavenhave accepted me? I think so and think God would have forgave me. What is your belief?
My Question to you is, what did you accept about Jesus ?
Did you accept his existence.
His birth,
His death
Or that he was a great teacher and prophet
A healer
Or That he paid all your sins ?
All of the above, and yes I have been Baptized,more than oncein my life.

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Rebellion is as the spirit of witchcraft and is sin, resulting in eternal torment by the choice of the individual, not the will of God.
But will he not if asked for forgiveness grant it?Look, I am not some big sinner, I rather think of myself as not carrying the Lord with me every day and wish to change that. I need to understand his wishes in everyday language. Rebel, I'm sorry, but all those verse's you quote have me scratching my head. What I think I need is to read the Living Bible to get a better understandingand be able to retain and absorb what is taught me. If you don't understand the words it's hard to practice the faith. I told you all in my first post in this forum I was sort of on the fence, that was I believe because I didn't/don't understand the verses, not that I was some big rebel-ant or sinner. Bear with me people, I'm here to learn and practice what I learn.
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But will he not if asked for forgiveness grant it?.
Col 1:14
[14] In whom we have redemption through His blood, even the forgiveness of sins:


Eph.1:7
[7] In whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches ofHis grace;


Luke 5:32
[32] I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
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