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Old 02-23-2008, 08:21 AM   #1
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Much debate has being published whether Obama is a Christian Or not ?
Here is an example of what he believes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35sGJrWKcmY

You will notice if you know the bible, that all his quotes are totally wrong, he uses the same rhetoric against the Bible as Muslims.[/align]
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Old 02-23-2008, 09:14 AM   #2
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i'm not sure he ever says in what he does believe there...that video is filled more with hypothetical questions than it was his personal beliefs

which biblical references are wrong?
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Old 02-23-2008, 09:39 AM   #3
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First of all, it always makes me a little uneasy when I see quotes taken out of context. But his statements about the Bible arereasonablyaccurate. "Blessed are the meek" and "turn the other cheek" are not part of basic military training as I understand it.

Since the quotes are taken out of context, I'm not sure what his point is. It doesn't really matter to me though since there is no chance of me voting for either Obama or Clinton.






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That was a total put down of God and christans, He was trying to descredit all believers and what the Bible said. It is my understanding that he can't touch the Bible,salute the flag or pledge aligence to the US so what more do you need?
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That was a total put down of God and christans, He was trying to descredit all believers and what the Bible said. It is my understanding that he can't touch the Bible,salute the flag or pledge aligence to the US so what more do you need?
"My grandfather taught me how to say the Pledge of Allegiance when I was 2," Obama said "During the Pledge of Allegiance you put your hand over your heart. During the national anthem you sing."


if you go into a video like that looking for the negatives and as someone who has already made up their mind about obama, then it will be very easy to look at it as a "total put down."
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Old 02-23-2008, 10:51 AM   #7
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Here he is being sworn in with his hand on the bible.

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Old 02-23-2008, 10:58 AM   #8
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I've also seen vidoe's of him leading the Senate in the Pledge.

I would never vote for the guy but be smart enough to check out the"facts" on the unternet rumors before you take the hook and then spread them.
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Much debate has being published whether Obama is a Christian Or not ?
Here is an example of what he believes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35sGJrWKcmY

You will notice if you know the bible, that all his quotes are totally wrong, he uses the same rhetoric against the Bible as Muslims.
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I had not seen that piece before that was on youtube, so I watched it. What I got out of it was, is living in a Therocracy, no matter the religion, better than living in a democracy? It sounded as if he was for the seperation of Church and State. Again, I didn't hear the entire speech, just a snippet, so I have to reserve my judgement of the context in which he spoke. Sound bites, just ya just love'em. You can do so much with them.
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i'm not sure he ever says in what he does believe there...that video is filled more with hypothetical questions than it was his personal beliefs

which biblical references are wrong?
1- The Law does not condoned slavery, the type of slavery it speaks of is a type of slavery in the middle east in which a worker can collect his annual salary up front, so he becomes indebted to the boss for that period of time.
Read Jacob's story where he worked for his wife for 7 years in that case it was a a 7 year self enslavement.

2- The law provides that if a child is disobedient to the term of ungodliness or Criminal behavior he can be put to death by the community.
This doesn't mean, that it was a common practice, I don't think there is any written record of that ever happening in Israel.
The law is there in case that it was needed, as an instructions which is what God's law is.
All That rhetoric and Criticism are the same arguments Muslims use all the time.
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