[align=left]What's everyone's thoughts on pre-destination and the Book of Life?
The church that my parents attend preaches pre-destination. Their reasoning is, if you believe that God is an all-knowing God, and that he knows everything, past and present, then he has pre-destined the saved and the non-believers. Meaning, God knew before you existed whether or not you would be saved.
The church claims to be Baptist, but isn't that a Calvinist belief?
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My friend..Baptist are of the Calvin doctrine..as well as Presbyterians.
Pentecostals are of the Armenian doctrinefor the most part.
As far as the topic..such things are too high for me..I just have enough strenghth to deal with the regular stuff...like loving my neighbor .
My friend..Baptist are of the Calvin doctrine..as well as Presbyterians.
Pentecostals are of the Armenian doctrinefor the most part.
As far as the topic..such things are too high for me..I just have enough strenghth to deal with the regular stuff...like loving my neighbor .
Yes, I know, but most Baptist churches that I have been in don't preach this.
I have a question for you all, what is the difference between penacostal, baptists, methodists and evangelicals? Remington Arms Girl
Sure..
I will give you some generic diffinitions..each one has it's own denominations within th edenominations..
so these are simply the basics.
Methodist..one of my favorites IF they were like they were originally.
but here are the 2008 model...at it's best..
They beleive in one baptism..infant baptism ..sprinkling over the head., salvation is primarily by attending church..communion Lord's Supper..most do 1/4 erly.Missions is weak but they minister to the local charities..they do not beg fo rmoney,They have pot luck suppers..Generaaly the pastor stays no longer the 8 years. Their district moves them around..The people are generaly open minded and there is generally open door to be involved. They tend to be liberal..in their convictions..Tehy came from John WEsley in the 1700s..They originally were very holy and legalistic type folks..they have mellowed greatly over the years.A great Methodist..you can read about him on the internet.John Wesley
Baptist..more narrow minded..their doctrine comes from alot of Calvin teachings..Now there are many different types of Baptist but most beleive ..you can not lose your salvation, and that we are in a different dispensation..They know their Bibles well and study to be ready with an answer. They beleiv eone must be totally emerged in water and make a decision yourself..your infant baptism would not count. There is much more but we have enough Baptist on her to let them explain for themselves.Some great examples of some good baptist,,Billy Grahm, Charles Stanley
WE have another on here that you missed..The Church of Christ.. They beleive the Lord's church is literally called The Church of Christ..one must be baptized..partake of commuion weekly..they do not have musical instruments in their church..and feel very strongly that they are the True church..and the others have been misled.
Pentecostals...I've been one since 1976 ..We beleive
a.One can backslide and go to a literal Hell.
b. One must be dunked in the water like the Baptist.
c. WE do not beleive we are in a different dispensation {Or age } therefore the same Jesus walks amongst us doing signs in wondrs if He so pleases..miracles, healing..causing folks ot speak in tongues etc. We also have come from the Weslian holiness background.
NOTE...there are many different kind sof Pentecostals..I particularily don't care for any of them..I just so happened ot expereince a genuine Pentecostal experience than has changed my life forever..I can worship in just about any church..I personally hate denonminations..I think they have caused much division in the body of Christ..I would rather just be called a Christian..A real good Pentecostal to read about Jack Hayford...Smith Wigglesworth ...
Evangelicals..I take as any Christians who are conservative and not liberal..
NOTE ..A "real good Christian is anyone who truly loves the Lord."Also..you folks who belong to these..please feel free to add.I only scraped the surface.
"Yes, I know, but most Baptist churches that I have been in don't preach this."
I hear ya..there are lots of things in all the churches in their doctrine but isn't preached. Example..true Pentecostals believe one must speak in tongues ot be baptized in the Holy Ghost..over teh years {Where I 've attended] they don't literally say that but it's still part of their doctrine..
Same with Baptist..there are many verses that do support election..but most wise pastors leave the controversy stuff alone..The only harm I can see in that election doctrine is.If God Knows who is goingto be saved..and if they are going to be saved anyway..why witness or send missionaries??BUT if you beleive "God is willing that no man should parish."1 Peter...then by all means SPREAD the gospel and proclaim the good newsto all men.
"Yes, I know, but most Baptist churches that I have been in don't preach this."
I hear ya..there are lots of things in all the churches in their doctrine but isn't preached. Example..true Pentecostals believe one must speak in tongues ot be baptized in the Holy Ghost..over teh years {Where I 've attended] they don't literally say that but it's still part of their doctrine..
Same with Baptist..there are many verses that do support election..but most wise pastors leave the controversy stuff alone..The only harm I can see in that election doctrine is.If God Knows who is goingto be saved..and if they are going to be saved anyway..why witness or send missionaries??BUT if you beleive "God is willing that no man should parish."1 Peter...then by all means SPREAD the gospel and proclaim the good newsto all men.
Why should wise pastors leave the controversial stuff alone? Shouldn't a true pastor preach the Word of God, without bending the truth in any way? Is preaching just about filling the seats and making people feel better about themselves?
Why should wise pastors leave the controversial stuff alone? Shouldn't a true pastor preach the Word of God, without bending the truth in any way? Is preaching just about filling the seats and making people feel better about themselves?
What controversial stuff are you talking about..pick one and I will discuss it with you...is it predisdenation?
I have a question for you all, what is the difference between penacostal, baptists, methodists and evangelicals?
They are all wrong, LOL
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
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Why should wise pastors leave the controversial stuff alone? Shouldn't a true pastor preach the Word of God, without bending the truth in any way? Is preaching just about filling the seats and making people feel better about themselves?
What controversial stuff are you talking about..pick one and I will discuss it with you...is it predisdenation?
Yeah, I guess pre-destination. I never said it was controversial, though. You said that a wise pastor should leave the controversial stuff alone, so I'm assuming that you think pre-destination (or the elect) is controversial.
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as well as Presbyterians.
I just have enough strenghth to deal with the regular stuff.
..like loving my neighbor .
