How many on here believe we will be raptured before the Great Tribulation. And why. Or do you think that believers will also go through the seven years of tribulation.
How many on here believe we will be raptured before the Great Tribulation. And why. Or do you think that believers will also go through the seven years of tribulation.
I don't think I really know what you're talking about.
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I heard Jesus He drank wine and I bet we'd get along just fine.
daddyslittlegirl, are you familiar with the Book of Revalation and bible prophecy? In the Book of Revelation the bible talks about the seven years of tribulation. During this time the Anti-Christ will rule the world. He will fool people into worshiping him. Ther'll be wars, famines, murder, debuachery,disease, natural dissasters(hurricanes, earthquakes, valcanoes) etc. etc, like the world has never seen before. Basically all heck is gonna break loose. May Christians that study bible prophecy believe that Chriastians will be taken up to heaven before it happens. Leaving only the unbelievers in Christ to go through the seven years.
Matthew 24:40
Then two shall be in the field. One shall be taken and one shall be left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill. One shall be taken and one shall be left.
All this will take place before Jesus second coming.
Cor 15:52 "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Kirk Cameron(Growing Pains) has actually stared in a series of movies based on this subject. The series is called Left Behind.
IMO the tribulation has nothing to do with the wrath of God. Tribulation is the wrath of the anti christ against the righteous. The rapture, an unscriptural term, will remove the church and open the door for Gods wrath to be poured out upon the seat of the beast. Prophecy isn't my strong suit, JMO based on my limited knowledge and understanding.
In Christian eschatology, the Rapture is the name given to a future event in which Jesus Christ will descend from Heaven, accompanied by the spirits of all the saints of God, both from the pre-incarnation period and after, who have passed on prior to this event, and then the bodily remains of these saints are transported from the Earth to meet the Lord and be rejoined with their corresponding spirits in the air. Immediately after this, all Christians alive on the earth are simultaneously transported to meet the Lord and those who have preceded them in the air. All are transformed into immortal bodies like Jesus' body, often referred to as the "resurrection body". This doctrine gained popularity in the 1830s, and more recently in the 1970s, with proponents of the premillennialist, and in particular the dispensationalist, interpretations of scripture. However, proponents of the doctrine have argued that it can be found in the early Church fathers and the New Testament.
There is much disagreement amongst rapture proponents over when the rapture will occur in relation to the Tribulation, a seven-year period preceding the second coming of Christ to the earth, or indeed, if the duration of the Tribulation will be seven years or only a 3 1/2 year period. Some understand the tribulation of Matthew 24 as having already taken place in 70 AD at the destruction of Jerusalem. (see Preterism). Three different views predominate. The first is that it will take place sometime prior to the Tribulation. The second is that it will take place mid-way through the Tribulation. The third is that it will take place after the Tribulation, when Christ comes to earth to establish his kingdom, the Kingdom of God, taking over rulership of the world for 1,000 years. (see Millennialism). A fourth view has recently developed, called the Pre-Wrath view.
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The Saints God will not go through the tribulation.Rapture is a term used for catching away of the saints in 1 Thess.4:13-18..
the rapture is a resurrection of the dead in Christ, and the catching up of the living saints..this is also described in .1 Co.15:51-58..here they are changed from morality to immorality and they will never see death..in both of these passages it is said to be a source of great encouragement..1 Thess 4:18 and 1 Co. 15:58..It certainly wouldn'r give me solace to know i had to go through the tribulation..how about you?
[/align]The evidence for the Pre-Tribulation Rapture
1Church age believers are promised salvation from wrath--1 Thess. 9:10;5:1-9;Rom. 5:9;Rev.3:10
the great Trib. is called the day of wrath..
2-The Holy Spirit is to removed before the Trib.--2 Thess. 2:1-8
He will remove the saints before the time of God's great wrath..
3-In the book of Rev. the church is not seen on earth after chapter 3 to chapter 19. in 19 the church is seen returning to earth
4-Church age believers are promised a mansion in heaven--John 14:1-3 when Jesus comes back at the end of the Trib. He will set up his messianic Kingdomso if the rapture occured after the trib. the promise of heaven to the believers wouldn't happen..
5-The rapture could happen any time now..Paul told the church that they didn't need to look for signs and times because the believer has been promised redemption from the day of darkness. 1 Thess. 5:1-9
6-The Great Trib. deals with Israel, not the church age believers.
7-The church cannot be overcome, but the saints of the trib. will be--compare Matt. 16-18 with Rev.13:7[/align][/align]there is a lot more to this if you want to look it up in the bible..[/align]
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wayne
"There's room at the cross for you."
..natural dissasters(hurricanes, earthquakes, valcanoes) etc. etc,
IntroC, do you believe earthquakes and volcanoes are primarily the result ofnatural interactions between the tectonic plates that make up the the Earth's crust or are they a manifestation of some supernatural power? What do yousuppose professional geologists who actually study these events think? Which alternative does the evidence, such as earthquakes and volcanoes prodiminantly occuring at plate boundries, support. The ancients who believed that earthquakes were caused by some angry deity did not have the knowledge to know any better. No such excuse exists for people living in a modern technological society.
daddyslittlegirl, are you familiar with the Book of Revalation and bible prophecy? In the Book of Revelation the bible talks about the seven years of tribulation. During this time the Anti-Christ will rule the world. He will fool people into worshiping him. Ther'll be wars, famines, murder, debuachery,disease, natural dissasters(hurricanes, earthquakes, valcanoes) etc. etc, like the world has never seen before. Basically all heck is gonna break loose. May Christians that study bible prophecy believe that Chriastians will be taken up to heaven before it happens. Leaving only the unbelievers in Christ to go through the seven years.
Matthew 24:40
Then two shall be in the field. One shall be taken and one shall be left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill. One shall be taken and one shall be left.
All this will take place before Jesus second coming.
Cor 15:52 "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Kirk Cameron(Growing Pains) has actually stared in a series of movies based on this subject. The series is called Left Behind.
Okay I see where you're coming from. (I hate ending a sentence with a preposition, but anything else sounds awkward.)
I've read some of Revelations. You can interpret that stuff any way you want. I don't pay any attention to it.
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Proud parents of our own "Daddy's Little Girls"
I heard Jesus He drank wine and I bet we'd get along just fine.
I've read some of Revelations. You can interpret that stuff any way you want. I don't pay any attention to it.
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that's the problem, everybody tries to interpret itinstead of just believing what God's Word says..it was written for a very good reason, to tell us what is going to happen in the future so we will be prepared for it..
the book is the Revelation of Jesus Christ, given to him by God the Father, and revealed to John the Beloved on the Isle of Patmos.
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wayne
"There's room at the cross for you."
Rapture of the Church.
