In all countries around the world math is the same. 2+2=4. We can all read a history book and know it is what it is. When it comes to the King James Bible we can read the same verse and get so many different interpretations. The Bible was written as it is what it is but we dont all view it the same. Why is that?
Everyone has different views of how they look at things. I've read a verse one day, and the next dayI can getsomething completely different from it. Reading the Bible without the guidance of the Holy Spirit is like taking a shower with a rain coat on. You go through the motions, but it's of no use.
I think a lot of it boils down to what someone wants to believe, what they have been taught, etc. etc. etc. I think there are lots of folks that are sincere and very devoted, but any two of them may read a verse differently.
As far as only being able to understand a scripture when guided by the Spirit, I have a question.
Many will say that having the Spirit (as with Cornelius, for instance) is proof you are saved. If that is the case, how does one get saved without being able to understand God's Word? Maybe I'm missing something here, but it doesn't make sense to me.
Chad
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"We can have no '50-50' allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all."-- Theodore Roosevelt
A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Ecclesiasties 10:2
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
There are people who don't bother to look up words and learn their meanings and justquote their opinions of what they think it means.
Another thing that is hard for me to understand is when someone posts a bible verse from one bookto show that the bible teaches what they have been taught and their beliefs, but another bible verse from a different book in the same bible will be posted andwill be phrased to mean the opposite from the first!
For every bible verse posted there is another bible verse posted that is phrased to let you believe different!
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Jesus said, "he who stands firm to the end will be saved" Mark 13:13.
Live Life in such a way that those who do not know Christ will come to know Him because they know you
Many will say that having the Spirit (as with Cornelius, for instance) is proof you are saved. If that is the case, how does one get saved without being able to understand God's Word? Maybe I'm missing something here, but it doesn't make sense to me.
Chad
I guess then what you saying, is some can't be saved if they can't read?
Not at all. If I understand it right (and I may not), some folks think you have to be saved to understand the Gospel, but how can that be? How can you believe and obey something you don't understand? Doesn't matter if you read it, hear it, or get it through sign language--it's the same.
Chad
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"We can have no '50-50' allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all."-- Theodore Roosevelt
A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Ecclesiasties 10:2
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
I don't feel that one has to be full of the Holy Spirit to understand much of the Bible. I think this is evidenced by the many professors of theology, some of whom are not christian.
Much of the Gospel is plain spoken enough that the lost can get enough of it to recieve it or reject it.
Also, I don't believe that the true Word of God contradicts itself. I believe if a Scripture seems to contadict that there is a problem with our understanding, or possibly with the translation.
That said, I have often noticed that the Holy Spirit will give one an understanding of difficult Scripture . . .even tho one lacks the academia it would often take to explain it. In some cases tho, some things are spiritually discerned and no amount of education can give it to you.
I know, I'm rambling . . . .again.
__________________ And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
Also, I don't believe that the true Word of God contradicts itself. I believe if a Scripture seems to contadict that there is a problem with our understanding, or possibly with the translation.
I know, I'm rambling . . . .again.
That's not what I seen in the Trinity/Oneness debates, unless everyone was saying You're Wrong and I'm Right or I am Right and You're are Wrong. Now, tell me who has the wrong understanding?
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Jesus said, "he who stands firm to the end will be saved" Mark 13:13.
Live Life in such a way that those who do not know Christ will come to know Him because they know you
I wasn"™t integrating the Holy Spirit with salvation, of course there has to be conviction from the Spirit before salvation. My comment was on interpreting scripture and reading without the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
I"™ve been through various trials and tribulations in my life, depending on my immediate situation the Holy Spirit may direct me to a certain scripture and that particular scripture might just be my answer or light shed on that problem and or solution.
Simply reading the Bible to pass the time away, or feel it"™s ones moral obligation to read, is not going to produce fruit as if it was gleaned with a purpose and intention and guidance from the Holy Spirit. That's all I was trying to say. I wasn't trying to make a debate out of it.