His birth, about AM 3750 - 3756 (10 - 4 BC), was expectantly awaited because within about 40 years Daniel's prophecy concerning Him must be fulfilled.(70 weeks of Daniel)
The prophet Mikha (Micah) wrote that He was destined to be born in Beth-Lechem (Bethlehem) - the House of Bread. [God called Him the Bread from Heaven, though men say Manna - [What is It?] It was because of this prophecy that King Herod had the children of Beth-Lechem killed, to protect his throne against the coming promised king.
The Rabbis who translated the Septuagint taught from the prophet YeshaYahu (Isaiah) that He would be born of a virgin and would be called Immanuel - God with Us.
In the expected time and place, on the Festival of Succoth (Feast of Tabernacles), in a succah (tabernacle, temporary dwelling) where Passover lambs were raised in the city of the shepherd David, a Son was born to a virgin descended from that Messiah David. At an angel's command, He was named Yeshua, meaning "Yahveh is Salvation." God would dwell with us in a succah of humanity that would be bruised by the serpent, then crush that old serpent!
When Zekharya (Zechariah) was ministering in the temple, he received an announcement from God of a coming son. The eighth course of Abia, when Zekharya was ministering, was the week of Sivan 12 to 18. If Zekharya's promised son Yochanan (John the baptizer) were conceived soon thereafter, then Yeshua's conception, which was six months later, would be late Chiselev to early Tevet, near Chanukah (the Feast of Dedication); His birth would thence be at mid Tishri, the Feast of Succoth (Tabernacles).
The month of Tishri (in the fall) also fits with the season of shepherds being out with their flocks by night, as they were when Yeshua was born; during winter the lambs are kept indoors.
The apostle Yochanan (John) tells us that the Word (of God) became flesh and "dwelt in a succah" (tabernacled) among us.
Shalom
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
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Other evidence arguing against a December birth of Jesus is the Roman census recorded by Luke. "And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered... So all went to be registered, everyone to his own city. Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem..., to be registered with Mary, his betrothed wife, who was with child. So it was, that while they were there, the days were completed for her to be delivered. And she brought forth her firstborn Son..." (Luke 2:1-7).
The Roman and Judean rulers knew that taking a census in winter would have been impractical and unpopular. Generally a census would take place after the harvest season, around September or October, when it would not seriously affect the economy, the weather was good and the roads were still dry enough to allow easy travel. According to the normal dates for the census, this would probably be the season of Christ's birth.
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Probably a pretty good guess as to the real date. But I don't see any move to change the date of Christmas from December 25, to sometime in Ocotber, succeeding.
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Proud parents of our own "Daddy's Little Girls"
I heard Jesus He drank wine and I bet we'd get along just fine.
I asked this on another Thread, you may not have seen it.
Question: Do you believe the NEW TESTAMENT is from God?
Turkey Fife
The New testament was written by Holy Men ,inspired by the holy Spirit, but on occasions as men are imperfect they added their biases and Ideas and the catholics who organized the canon of the new testament, were the ones to give what we know today as the New Testament, with their agenda in mind.
The Word of God is The Torah, dictated to Moses ears from God's mouth, so that is the word of God.
And those things God spoke to the Prophets is the Word Of God.
The things Yeshua (Jesus) said is the word of God.("In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the Word was God")
Yeshua is the living Torah.
Is that Clear ?
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
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Probably a pretty good guess as to the real date. But I don't see any move to change the date of Christmas from December 25, to sometime in Ocotber, succeeding.
Maybe not in evangelical churches, but we do celebrate sukkot and his birth in my shull(Church).
Shalom
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
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I asked this on another Thread, you may not have seen it.
Question: Do you believe the NEW TESTAMENT is from God?
Turkey Fife
The New testament was written by Holy Men ,inspired by the holy Spirit, but on occasions as men are imperfect they added their biases and Ideas and the catholics who organized the canon of the new testament, were the ones to give what we know today as the New Testament, with their agenda in mind.
The Word of God is The Torah, dictated to Moses ears from God's mouth, so that is the word of God.
And those things God spoke to the Prophets is the Word Of God.
The things Yeshua (Jesus) said is the word of God.("In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the Word was God")
Yeshua is the living Torah.
Is that Clear ?
What you say is clear, and your view is certainly interesting, but I don't think I agree with you.
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Proud parents of our own "Daddy's Little Girls"
I heard Jesus He drank wine and I bet we'd get along just fine.
I asked this on another Thread, you may not have seen it.
Question: Do you believe the NEW TESTAMENT is from God?
Turkey Fife
The New testament was written by Holy Men ,inspired by the holy Spirit, but on occasions as men are imperfect they added their biases and Ideas and the catholics who organized the canon of the new testament, were the ones to give what we know today as the New Testament, with their agenda in mind.
The Word of God is The Torah, dictated to Moses ears from God's mouth, so that is the word of God.
And those things God spoke to the Prophets is the Word Of God.
The things Yeshua (Jesus) said is the word of God.("In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the Word was God")
Yeshua is the living Torah.
Is that Clear ?
What you say is clear, and your view is certainly interesting, but I don't think I agree with you.
That is your Privilege, and your argument is based on ?
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
פרץ
The Word of God is The Torah, dictated to Moses ears from God's mouth, so that is the word of God.
And those things God spoke to the Prophets is the Word Of God.
The things Yeshua (Jesus) said is the word of God.("In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the Word was God")
What about the rest of the Old Testament? Is it not the word of God? When a prophet spoke, but was not speaking concerning prophety, or future events, was that the word of God?
Yeshua(Jesus) Was Not Born in December
