Evolution mandated as fact in Florida schools

n.florida hunter · 11-20-2007, 01:07 AM

I am asking for help from all the christians in the state of Florida PLEASE!!!! The board of education has mandated that the Florida school system teach evolution as a fact now not a theory. I am deeply troubled by this! If this is allowed this in my opinion will teach that creationism is by no way real. Would all of those from this state that reads this please try and contact the school beoards in your county and please let our voices be heard! This is just one more step to keep the people of the world from hearing the true gospel and would be a huge upset for all christian people. Thank you so very much for your help and GOD BLESS

Chuck7 · 11-20-2007, 01:33 AM

I'm a Florida public school teacher and have not heard any of this yet..I wouldn't teach it as a fact even if I was told..

Snooky · 11-20-2007, 10:24 AM

n.fla hunter. It doesn't suprise me at all if this is true. In 1959 in Dunnellon High School, Dunnellon, Marion County, Fla. Lionel Cornell was a teacher and Methodist minister that taught in his biology class that the story of the garden wasn't true. It was simply a story. With the influx of anti christian natives from the Islands, South America, and Mexico, Florida has became a good place to be from.

Pupuchito · 11-20-2007, 12:21 PM

With all due respect Snooky,
IMHO, the majority of people from the places you mention happen to be religeous if not christians all together. Most of the people I know from "those" places believe in God. Where the godlessness comes from in our society is more likely the liberal, humanistic, athiestic culture of higher education and unfortunatsly, seems to filter west and south from the northeast of the US. Your statement about those from Latin America comes off a little racist. Just my opinion.
Steve

Snooky · 11-20-2007, 02:58 PM

Pupuchito; Sorry you took offence, I don't know what race you may be, but I have some very good friends who are latino, some are black, some of the worst people I know are white. My observation is based upon what I have seen in my home state of Florida, and my wifes home state of California, and Idaho where I now live. It isn't based upon what race the immigrant may be, it is the class of the individual that either gives their race a bad name, or a good name.
It cannot be denied that there are those who leave the homeland to excape the law, or to engage in illigal activities where the profits are greater. Border towns attest to this fact. Many of those who enter this country are not christians, but followers of voodoo, and other satanic forms of witchcraft. Most of these don't settle in rural, less populated areas. They choose to operate where the masses and the wealth are the greatest. South Florida, southern California, are a couple of prime examples. Because one can see, hear, read, and make a simple observation, doesn't make one "racist". If I had made a statement like Sharpton made about Obama, "Just because he is colored, doesn't make him one of us", You would have been justified IMO.
Just for you info, my ancestry includes, Irish, Dutch, French, American Indian,English,and a slave of unknow race. I have grand children named Gonzales, is that the profile of a racist?
Another observation I have made is this; The first one to scream, "racist", and play the race card,is often the one who is eaten up with racism. I hope that isn't the case here.

Californiadoctor · 11-21-2007, 03:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: n.florida hunter

I am asking for help from all the christians in the state of Florida PLEASE!!!! The board of education has mandated that the Florida school system teach evolution as a fact now not a theory. I am deeply troubled by this! If this is allowed this in my opinion will teach that creationism is by no way real. Would all of those from this state that reads this please try and contact the school beoards in your county and please let our voices be heard! This is just one more step to keep the people of the world from hearing the true gospel and would be a huge upset for all christian people. Thank you so very much for your help and GOD BLESS

This sounds a little fishy to me. Scientific theories arealways tentative, never as fact,and are subject to change ifnew evidence is found that is inconsistent with the existing theory. In science a "theory" is a well supported explanation of natural phenomenon that unifies observations, experimental results and known laws.Being considered atheory is the pinnacle of acceptance in the scientific community and in that respect the theory of evolution is like the theory of relativity, theory of electro-magnetism and the atomic theory. The teaching of thetheory of evolution has been permitted in every state since a Supreme Court decision in 1987 that found state laws forbidding the teaching of evolution unconstitutional. Creationism may not be taught in any public school in the USA as a number of court decisions over the past 10 years have ruled that creationism is not science, it isreligious dogma and teaching it in public schools violates the establishment clause under the Constitution.

Caldoc

DaveH · 11-22-2007, 01:11 AM

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The teaching of thetheory of evolution has been permitted in every state since a Supreme Court decision in 1987 that found state laws forbidding the teaching of evolution unconstitutional. Creationism may not be taught in any public school in the USA as a number of court decisions over the past 10 years have ruled that creationism is not science, it isreligious dogma and teaching it in public schools violates the establishment clause under the Constitution.

It seems reasonable to teach only what we know - meaning showing the scientific evidence - and not tie it to evolution since creation cannot be taught. If evolution is taught then teachers should show the gaping holes, the insurmountable odds, the unexplainable theories with-in this theory, etc. as well. Evolution is a belief just like creation and the evidence betters fits creation that it does evolution, but only the one that denies God is allowed. That seems fair, doesn't it?

millerhunter13 · 11-22-2007, 05:22 PM

i am in 8th grade and i havnt learnd anything about evolution and if i do i will start complaining to the teacher and my princ. thatits wrong, i cant believe that they would do something like that, but actully it dosnt florida is a messed up state.

sachiko · 11-23-2007, 08:23 AM

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The teaching of thetheory of evolution has been permitted in every state since a Supreme Court decision in 1987 that found state laws forbidding the teaching of evolution unconstitutional. Creationism may not be taught in any public school in the USA as a number of court decisions over the past 10 years have ruled that creationism is not science, it isreligious dogma and teaching it in public schools violates the establishment clause under the Constitution.

It seems reasonable to teach only what we know - meaning showing the scientific evidence - and not tie it to evolution since creation cannot be taught. If evolution is taught then teachers should show the gaping holes, the insurmountable odds, the unexplainable theories with-in this theory, etc. as well. Evolution is a belief just like creation and the evidence betters fits creation that it does evolution, but only the one that denies God is allowed. That seems fair, doesn't it?

Actually, the theory of evolution is merely the name for the collection of scientific evidence that demonstrates how the diversity of species came about. "What we know" is called the theory of evolution.

sachiko · 11-23-2007, 08:30 AM

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ORIGINAL: millerhunter13

i am in 8th grade and i havnt learnd anything about evolution and if i do i will start complaining to the teacher and my princ. thatits wrong, i cant believe that they would do something like that, but actully it dosnt florida is a messed up state.

Actually, if you want to debate it, you should learn as much about it as you can. You can't really disagree with a question about which you know nothing.