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Old 11-02-2007, 07:00 PM   #1
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Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every onethat asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened

I dont really get it I have asked for things and well hasnt been given to me
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Old 11-02-2007, 09:02 PM   #2
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Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every onethat asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened

I dont really get it I have asked for things and well hasnt been given to me
I'm not any kind of Bible expert, but I think it refers to asking for faith,seeking God's grace and blessing, and knocking on the gate or door leadinag to God's presence.
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:49 AM   #3
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Fred, we have to understand the whole sermon to understand the concept of that very bit of scripture.
Jesus, is preaching the sermon on the mount. These are predominately Jewish people He's preaching to. This was Jesus first alter call. He was preaching about a new life, a life trusting in God completely. Jesus was talking about salvation. Prosperity preachers misquote this scripture and Luke 6:38 more than any other scripture.
This scripture and Rev. 3:20 go hand in hand together. Jesus is telling the people that salvation is for everyone and is a free gift as stated in Eph 2: 8-9.

Remember there in no verse in the Bible indicating that God is a vending machine God. He is a farming God, He teaches us that we will reap what we sow.

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Amen Rev, couldn't be explained than that..
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S. Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking (7:7"“12)


[/align]7:7, 8 If we think that we can live out the teachings of the Sermon on the Mount by our own strength, we have failed to realize the supernatural character of the life to which the Savior calls us. The wisdom or power for such a life must be given to us from above. So here we have an invitation to ask and keep on asking; to seek and keep on seeking; to knock and keep on knocking. Wisdom and power for the Christian life will be given to all who earnestly and persistently pray for it.


[/align]Taken out of context, verses 7 and 8 might seem like a blank check for believers, i.e., we can get anything we ask for. But this is simply not true. The verses must be understood in their immediate context and in light of the whole Bible"™s teaching on prayer. Therefore, what seems like unqualified promises here are actually restricted by other passages. For example, from Psalm 66:18 we learn that the person praying must have no unconfessed sin in his life. The Christian must pray in faith (Jas. 1:6"“8) and in conformity with the will of God (1 Jn. 5:14). Prayer must be offered persistently (Luke 18:1"“8) and sincerely (Heb. 10:22a).


[/align]7:9, 10 When the conditions for prayer are met, the Christian can have utter confidence that God will hear and answer. This assurance is based on the character of God, our Father. On the human level, we know that if a son asks for bread, his father will not give him a stone. Neither would he give him a serpent if he had asked for a fish. An earthly father would neither deceive his hungry son nor give him anything that might inflict pain.


[/align]7:11 The Lord argues from the lesser to the greater. If human parents reward their children"™s requests with what is best for them, how much more will our Father who is in heaven do so.


[/align]7:12 The immediate connection of verse 12 with the preceding seems to be this: since our Father is a giver of good things to us, we should imitate Him in showing kindness to others. The way to test whether an action is beneficial to others is whether we would want to receive it ourselves. The "śGolden Rule"ť had been expressed in negative terms at least one hundred years before this time by Rabbi Hillel. However, by stating the rule in positive terminology, Jesus goes beyond passive restraint to active benevolence. Christianity is not simply a matter of abstinence from sin; it is positive goodness.


[/align]This saying by Jesus is the Law and the Prophets, that is, it summarizes the moral teachings of the Law of Moses and the writings of the Prophets of Israel. The righteousness demanded by the OT is fulfilled in converted believers who thus walk according to the Spirit (Rom. 8:4). If this verse were universally obeyed, it would transform all areas of international relationships, national politics, family life, and church life.


[/align]T. The Narrow Way (7:13, 14)


[/align]The Lord now warns that the gate of Christian discipleship is narrow and the way is difficult. But those who faithfully follow His teachings find the abundant life. On the other hand, there is the wide gate"”the life of self-indulgence and pleasure. The end of such a life is destruction. This is not a discussion of losing one"™s soul, but of a failure to live out the purpose of one"™s existence.


[/align]These verses also have an application to the gospel by depicting the two roads and destinies of the human race. The wide gate and broad way lead to destruction (Prov. 16:25). The narrow gate and difficult way lead to life. Jesus is both the gate (John 10:9) and the way (John 14:6). But while this is a valid application of the passage, the interpretation is for believers. Jesus is saying that to follow Him would require faith, discipline, and endurance. But this difficult life is the only life worth living. If you choose the easy way, you will have plenty of company, but you will miss God"™s best for you.



[/align][/align]MacDonald, William ; Farstad, Arthur: Believer's Bible Commentary : Old and New Testaments. Nashville : Thomas Nelson, 1997, c1995, S. Mt 7:7

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