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Old 10-02-2007, 11:25 AM   #1
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Oak Lawn Schools Cancel Holiday Traditions
School District To Discuss Cancellation Or Renaming Of Holiday Celebrations At Emergency Meeting



Suzanne Le Mignot
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(CBS) OAK LAWN, Ill. A southwest suburban school district has taken action, responding to the concerns of a Muslim parent.

But now, as CBS 2's Suzanne Le Mignot reports, other parents are angry that traditional school holidays will be renamed or even eliminated.

"That does not represent all the Muslims, all of the Arabs at that school," said Qais Nofel, the father of a student in Ridgeland School District 122.

There was some heated discussion between parents outside Columbus Manor Elementary School in Oak Lawn on Friday. The thought of no more traditional holiday celebrations has many parents really upset.

For now, children in Ridgeland School District 122 will celebrate fall festival instead of Halloween and winter festival instead of Christmas.

Brenda Elvidge said, "It's not fair to our kids. This is America and that's an American tradition."

The decision affects the children at four elementary schools in Oak Lawn and one junior high school in Bridgeview.

The district has a 30 percent Arab-American population, many of whom practice Islam. The superintendent says the reason for the change in tradition comes after one parent wanted Ramadan decorations put up inside Columbus Manor Elementary. They were taken down.

Superintendent Tom Smyth said, "I go back to our policy which says that public schools are to remain neutral in this respect."

Ridgeland School District 122 has called for an emergency meeting on the issue, to be held on Tuesday.

Meantime, Muslim children are being allowed to pray during what's being called their own time, that's lunch time, during Ramadan.

Parent June Quigley said, "They get to pray in our schools. That is religion in a public school."

Muslim parents have different views on the issue.

Sala Abour said, "To take away Halloween and Christmas from little kids, that is very wrong."

Nofel said, "We go and we celebrate the holidays and traditions here, but we do have the right to be Muslims as well."

Other parents say the controversy is overshadowing what really needs to be addressed at all five schools in the district.

Ronnie Carroll said, "The fact that they are cash strapped. Our classroom size is way above the average mean, 38 children in our first grade classroom. The concern should be our school, not the whole holiday issues."

Those issues along with the holiday controversy are going to be addressed at a school board meeting on Tuesday. Members will decide if holidays will be celebrated or not.

Meantime, the Illinois PTA district director says the state is now investigating this issue and there's a meeting with the superintendent next week.

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Old 10-02-2007, 07:08 PM   #2
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gee alex, i hope your not surprised , it is prophecy . she will be bewailed
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I don't have a problem with the musilm kids praying at school during ramadan, they aren't supposed to be eating lunch during ramadan anyway. I also don't have a problem with the school providing a classroom for the purpose. There's no expectation of privacy on school grounds, so the room could be wired without a warrant. (Just thinking outside the box here) Also, if the muslim kids don't want to take off for Christmas, they can just keep going to school while their Christian classmates enjoy their holiday. The Jewish kids are always taking off school for holidays while their classmates continue attending, so I don't think there is a problem with precedent.

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Old 10-03-2007, 07:34 AM   #4
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I don't have a problem with the musilm kids praying at school during ramadan, they aren't supposed to be eating lunch during ramadan anyway. I also don't have a problem with the school providing a classroom for the purpose. There's no expectation of privacy on school grounds, so the room could be wired without a warrant. (Just thinking outside the box here) Also, if the muslim kids don't want to take off for Christmas, they can just keep going to school while their Christian classmates enjoy their holiday. The Jewish kids are always taking off school for holidays while their classmates continue attending, so I don't think there is a problem with precedent.
Better yet ,let them go to Islamic schools, why should Christian Tax money be used to please a non-christian.
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Old 10-03-2007, 08:01 AM   #5
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I don't have a problem with the musilm kids praying at school during ramadan, they aren't supposed to be eating lunch during ramadan anyway. I also don't have a problem with the school providing a classroom for the purpose. There's no expectation of privacy on school grounds, so the room could be wired without a warrant. (Just thinking outside the box here) Also, if the muslim kids don't want to take off for Christmas, they can just keep going to school while their Christian classmates enjoy their holiday. The Jewish kids are always taking off school for holidays while their classmates continue attending, so I don't think there is a problem with precedent.
Better yet ,let them go to Islamic schools, why should Christian Tax money be used to please a non-christian.
Ummm.... they are public schools. Christians aren't the only ones who pay taxes. That's like saying "let them go to black schools, why should white tax money be used to please a black." Good grief.
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I don't have a problem with the musilm kids praying at school during ramadan, they aren't supposed to be eating lunch during ramadan anyway. I also don't have a problem with the school providing a classroom for the purpose. There's no expectation of privacy on school grounds, so the room could be wired without a warrant. (Just thinking outside the box here) Also, if the muslim kids don't want to take off for Christmas, they can just keep going to school while their Christian classmates enjoy their holiday. The Jewish kids are always taking off school for holidays while their classmates continue attending, so I don't think there is a problem with precedent.
Better yet ,let them go to Islamic schools, why should Christian Tax money be used to please a non-christian.

Thats why we have private schools. My daughter attends one. Now, if only I got credits on my taxes for sending her their!!! I think we should get credits, it would cause public schools to wake up.
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Old 10-03-2007, 08:19 AM   #7
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I won't be on this earth to see it, but as the enormouscount ofIslamics we are letting into this country every year and the American islamic convertshere every day,the main language in this country is gong to be Arabic...And we worry about the Mexicans?
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Old 10-03-2007, 08:26 AM   #8
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30% of the school population is are Arab Americans, and they were not allowed to have decorations for Ramadan, the decoartions were taken down, why?

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It isn't Christian tax money it's American tax money.
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:31 AM   #9
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30% of the school population is are Arab Americans, and they were not allowed to have decorations for Ramadan, the decoartions were taken down, why?

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Better yet ,let them go to Islamic schools, why should Christian Tax money be used to please a non-christian.
It isn't Christian tax money it's American tax money.
77% of americans are Christians ; http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_prac2.htm
So in the majority it is Christian Tax payers who carry the schools, my fren.
I for one sent mine to Hebrew school and so are my granchildren.
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:54 AM   #10
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30% of the school population is are Arab Americans, and they were not allowed to have decorations for Ramadan, the decoartions were taken down, why?

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Superintendent Tom Smyth said, "I go back to our policy which says that public schools are to remain neutral in this respect."
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Better yet ,let them go to Islamic schools, why should Christian Tax money be used to please a non-christian.
It isn't Christian tax money it's American tax money.
77% of americans are Christians ; http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_prac2.htm
So in the majority it is Christian Tax payers who carry the schools, my fren.
I for one sent mine to Hebrew school and so are my granchildren.
That's just patently ridiculous. 70% of Americans are white. Does that mean we should push blacks, hispanics and orientals into separateschools? I find it outlandish that many of my fellow Christians wail about how intolerant the Islamic faith is, yet are so outrageously intolerant themselves.
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