Good morning brothers and sisters in Christ,,
I have a pop quiz for ya..
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1. Is "Walking in the Spirit" work? yes or no
2.a. Is mortifying the deeds of my flesh work..
b.and if I fail to do this is it true .."I shall die?"
Romans 8 :13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
2. a Yes or No
2.b. Yes or No
3. Is obeying Christ "Going back to the works of the law?"
"I'm getting to old in Christ to argue such silly things. We all will have to give an answer one day for what we did with our precious gift of faith.That is between you and God."
Chuck, are you not the same person that posted this yesterday?
If we are going to achieve victory over sin, it will be through the power of the Holy Spirit (v. 13). If we didn't have the Spirit's supernatural power in our lives, we would be unable to overcome the flesh--to kill sin--because the flesh can't overcome flesh. Sin can't gain victory over sin. We must be transformed first (vv. 5-11). Once we have within us the life of God in the presence of His indwelling Spirit, we have power to overcome the flesh. In Romans 7:18 Paul says, "I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) dwelleth no good thing; for to will is present with me, but how to perform that which is good I find not." Paul recognized that apart from God, there was within himself no resource for doing good. That's true for all of us--we have no capacity to gain victory over the flesh on our own.
Romans 8:5-8 says, "They that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh .... The carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, neither, indeed, can be. So, then, they that are in the flesh cannot please God." Apart from the Holy Spirit's power, a person is controlled by a debilitating corruption. An unregenerate person has no capacity to deal with sin in a manner pleasing to God. But when the Spirit enters a person's life, that changes. With His presence comes the capacity to overcome the flesh.
Romans 8
1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Good morning brothers and sisters in Christ,,
I have a pop quiz for ya..
POP QUIZ
1. Is "Walking in the Spirit" work? yes or no Is it a believer,who is already saved, that is asked to walk in the Spirit--yes or no?
2.a. Is mortifying the deeds of my flesh work.. Do you or I , or any other believer completly and flawlessly in actual ,everyday life, do this perfectly, and if not, where does that leave us? Part b: Or, as Paul says in Gal 2:20--I am crucified with Christ, does that mean that our position in Christ suprercedes our inconsistent walk?
b.and if I fail to do this is it true .."I shall die?"
Romans 8 :13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Essay question:In full context of the whole NT, define mortifying the flesh.
2. a Yes or No
2.b. Yes or No
3. Is obeying Christ "Going back to the works of the law?"
Yes or No
Is obedience,perfect obedience a requirement for salvation,or is obedience in reference to yielding ones life to Christ(faith), for His forgiveness and grace?
I appreciate all of the replies...There is already a thread going on with similiar content..I may reply on one of those..
God bless,
C7
I would love to hear your responses to the questions on my pop quiz You asked some leading questions that really aren't yes and no, at least not as you phrased them. So, I am simply asking ones that qualify yours, and put them in their proper context. You were leading toa conclusion that can't be answered as phrased, because the references aren't dealing with salvation issues,but the life of someone who is already a believer.So,please respond if you don't mind.
All my conversations with you in the past have been bad expereinces...the answers to your questions are very simple ones but I choose to refrain in order to not embarass ourselves.
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