Please review the way the question is posed before answering the question.
What does the Bible teach in regards to whipping your wife?
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mr-pirk
It's in the same section as how many times she must visit you in jail.. I do know that we are supposed to obey the laws of the land, however... in my state it's not legal to whip your wife, or your dog. Common sense should be taken into consideration..
We are supposed to turn the other cheek, can I get a free shot?
Mark, to answer your question seriously, I don't see the Bible teaching to whip one's wife. . . . .but like many subjects, if I were put on a debating team I can see where one could possibly make a case for it by adding mans logic to the Scriptures.
However, since I don't see any percentage in a man striking a woman for any reason, and since I'm fortunate enough to have a really good wife, I don't see any percentage in even trying to stir the pot here . . .tho I am tempted just for grins and giggles. Also, so many husbands physically and mentally abuse their wives and children I would'nt want to be frivolous with such a subject.
I have a half formulated thought (as most of my medicated thoughts are these recent days), that if a man is obediant to God and heeds all of the advise given in His Word, and in his life loves God first, then he will have all the authority he needs to be the head of his family. I think this because of all the wisdom found in the Bible about choosing a woman, dealing with ones finances, being an example, and being sober minded. A Godly person that has the fruits of the Spirit in a very real way is a very real force.
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Chuck, I mostly agree with your post. However reconsider the thread opener in this light, does a man have a right to whip his children? If so, why? Does that "why" also apply to wives?
Hey there Rev, great to see you. Your point about the "Laws of the Land" does play a part in the discussion. Thanks for widening the discussion.
Leaf River Mac, in regards to the first part of your reply please review my reply to Chuck.
As to the second part of your reply, I agree that conducting your relations in a manner that allows you to stick to your rules and doesn"t result in whipping is always better.
My question is this:
Just the same as there may come a time that if you spare the rod and spoil the child, does that thinking also apply to how you deal with a wayward wife?
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mr-pirk
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My question is this:
Just the same as there may come a time that if you spare the rod and spoil the child, does that thinking also apply to how you deal with a wayward wife?
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mr-pirk
The same logic does not apply, as your children are young and need the discipline instilled into them. Your wife, being an adult already, does not need to be spanked. I send mine to timeout instead.
I read this a day or so ago before there were any replys. I didn't even know what to think or if you were serious or what exactly you meant by the question.[&:]
I think I've got it now.
As a father (or mother) one of our responsibilities is to raise our children in the fear of the Lord. To teach discipline and the entire concept that your actions will reap a consequence. The "rod" is good for this. We should also be an example of all of God's attributes. Justice, unconditional love, guidance, provision, mercy, authority, stewardship...on and on. (Scary aint it!?!?!?!?!) And while we are to be an example of those attributes to our wives also there is a difference between "bring up a child in the way he should go" and "honoring".
I think the latter part of Leaf River Macs post is very well put and a fabulous point that needs to be really thought about.
I think one way this type of question comes up is that we (Americans...and I suppose most cultures) still very much view marriage as two seperate people who must give and take and constantly choose who will get their way. There's always a winner and a loser or two compromisers who both lost. This type of mentally requires one of the members to "assert" themselves in nearly every situation...even a compromise. Sometimes, out of frustration or confusion or just the sheer feeling of 'spinning the ole wheels' that "assertion" becomes one of physical abilities (just like us boys use to do on the playground as kids)...and all of a sudden we have a wife beating.
It oughta (in my opinion...I'm no relationship expert by a long shot) be more like the mentality we have towards salvation. We are no longer "me/my/mine". We are something altogether different and we've chosen to end our lives. We now live for another goal and another interest. Two parts moving as one unit with the husband leading the way down a path both have chosen. There is no "my way"...it's "our way". And disagreements will end and quickly as they are discovered because we will both take greater interest in pleasing (and honoring) the other than pleasing ourselves. Because, remember, we aren't living for ourselves anymore...we are living interests of the "couple"
Man, I'll tell ya what...I don't even know if that makes sense to me. It's really hard for me to get my thoughts in words sometimes. I do realize that no marriage is perfect and what is described above is an ideal.
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interesting post, has made me read a little extra the last day or so,
also ironic, i was watching andy the other night before bed, and briscoe darling was telling his daughter that she had a good man, owned live-stock, some property, and did not beat her very often[&:]
Mac, your last paragraph is spot on for me, and soil i think you did a great job on your idea of what the relationship/being married is supposed to be, nobody said it would be easy, but most things worth having aren't, although i consider myself doubly blessed, my wife is still my best friend
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Being a woman I will do my best to give my perspective. Well we know that when we marry we are not two but one. We also know that women are to submit to their husbands. And husbands are to love their wives as themselves. A husband is to be a leader of a household not a RULER. If I wanted a dad to dictate my life I wouldn't have gotten married I would have stayed home. So no husbands should not discipline their wives. First they should talk to the wife about the problem- If that doesn't work they should go to an elder of the church. If that doesn't work then the issue should be brought in front of the board----And if it goes this far beating her will not make her less wayward it will make her more wayward. Soil I for one understood your post and I admire your ability, thank-you for sharing that with us.
Thank you mudheads1 wife, you said it better than i could so i'll give you a hearty Amen..
I will say one thing..i don't think much of a man who beats his wife..
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Spare the Rod and Spoil the Wife????
. I do know that we are supposed to obey the laws of the land, however... in my state it's not legal to whip your wife, or your dog.
