Below is a piece from a recent article regarding sexual abuse in the Catholic Church and the recent settlement.
I am Catholic, but have long been bothered/infuriated by how the Catholic Church has covered up and enabled priests to sexually abuse children and then spend huge $ in the priests' defense.
The thinking reflected below, to me is just another way of trying to avoid responsibility for such horrible actions.
What do others think?
VATICAN CITY - Sexual abuse of children is not just a Catholic Church problem and other institutions should take steps to acknowledge and deal with such "wickedness" within their own ranks, the Vatican said on Tuesday.
The Vatican"s chief spokesman, Father Federico Lombardi, also said the record $660 million settlement between the Archdiocese of Los Angeles and victims of sexual abuse was an attempt to "close a painful chapter and look forward."
"The church is above all clearly pained by the suffering of the victims and their families, by the deep wounds caused by the grave and inexcusable behavior of some of its members," Lombardi said.
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No one else thinks that the above statement by the Catholic Church is a way to push off full responsibility or divert attention? I think it is.
I saw this on the news as well... I think they are just trying to take the heat off because they got caught and to magnifyit all ithas been very public. But I also think any other organization that would ofgot caught of this offense would probably be saying the same thing.
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The thinking reflected below, to me is just another way of trying to avoid responsibility for such horrible actions.
What do others think?
You may well be right. I havn't read his statement in fact I havn't found it yet. If what you say is true. I would go furthur and say some are covering their backside for letting some things go they knew about.They are just as guilty in my opinion.
I'm sorry Tex, I got to disagree, the Church should not be doing that. The Bishops should be raising the roof. I am hoping tbis Pope will get a handle on it.
The statement about other organizations is true enough, in my opinion. Anywhere there are kids schools ,scouts what ever, and has been for some time.This is what the 60's gave you baby.
What Francis de Sales said is as important for us today as it was then. He did not pull any punches. He said, "While those who give scandal are guilty of the spiritual equivalent of murder [i.e., destroying other people's faith in God by their terrible example], those who take scandal-who allow scandals to destroy their faith-are guilty of spiritual suicide."
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The thinking reflected below, to me is just another way of trying to avoid responsibility for such horrible actions.
What do others think?
You may well be right. I havn't read his statement in fact I havn't found it yet. If what you say is true. I would go furthur and say some are covering their backside for letting some things go they knew about.They are just as guilty in my opinion.
I'm sorry Tex, I got to disagree, the Church should not be doing that. The Bishops should be raising the roof. I am hoping tbis Pope will get a handle on it.
The statement about other organizations is true enough, in my opinion. Anywhere there are kids schools ,scouts what ever, and has been for some time.This is what the 60's gave you baby.
What Francis de Sales said is as important for us today as it was then. He did not pull any punches. He said, "While those who give scandal are guilty of the spiritual equivalent of murder [i.e., destroying other people's faith in God by their terrible example], those who take scandal-who allow scandals to destroy their faith-are guilty of spiritual suicide."
What Paul said is more important than anyone else here. It is better to marry than to burn with lust. Sexual desire and teh marriage bed are gifts from God. If given no legitimate menas to express themselves--forbidding to marry--then you have the compulsion that always surfaces in one form or another . Self control and the suppression of a desire are not close to being the same. Many find themselves forbidden to marry, so this suppression surfaces in deviant behavior. Combine that with the attempt tp justify ones self through self effort and you have a recipe for such a climate as exists. Additionally, you have teh fcator of those whose sole purpose was to place themselves in such a position, being a wolf in sheep's clothing to start. These ar e teh issues that need to be addressed, Catholic or otherwise, and then when it doe ssurface, it should b dealt with just as Paul said in Corinthians, they should be disassociated with and admonished until they reach full repentance. Those that won't should never be given such a position ever again, and any criminal actions should be treated as such.
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" So this suppression surfaces in deviant behavior. "
Baloney they were deviant, and evil, to start.
I'm not really trying to make a point but for some reason this memory comes to mind.
And to start with , I know a turkey and a priest are not equal[8D].
Years ago a friend of mine was getting out of the turkey business. He had the biggest old gobbler I had ever seen . . .this thing was humongous. He was also his breeder tom. Aside from a little incest every now and then this was a perfectly normal turkey . . .as far as turkies go he showed no deviant behavior.
Just because this tom was so big I talked my friend into letting me have him. I let him loose on the place here to roam at will. I did'nt ever get a hen turkey.
Finally one day I noticed tom strutting around an old blue bucket that was laying in the yard. . . . .yep . . .he consumated the facination with the bucket. Time went on and my turkey and my blue bucket became bonded as any two creatures I have ever seen. He spent his days wooing the bucket and protecting it from anyone that would dare approach his "hen".
I don't think my turkey was a born bucket molester, but because he became so lonely after being removed from his hens he developed this deviant "bucket fetish"
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Buckets are a nice past time for turkeys. I am a old farm boy animals get confused on what is a bucket and what isn't all the time.
People can reason or at least I thought so until this topic came up. A Priest that doesn't know it is evil to abuse a child is something else.
Now if 6 % of priests are child abusers what about the other 94%
It is Baloney and you know it leaf.. To abuse a child for what ever reason is just plain evil.It has nothing to do with the poor mans lack of sex.I can't believeI am hearing right. Now what aboutmarried protestant pastors who abuse little girls. What is their excuse. You guys are messed up on this one.
I'm rung out on this I'm out of here for the night.
Good night allyou poorsex starvedpotential child abusers out there.
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