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Old 06-08-2007, 11:12 AM   #1
 
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Is there any indication in the Bible that any man or created being besides God is capable of being everywhere? Knowing everything? Hearing everything? Seems like many like to give satan credit for being able to be everywhere and know all ourthoughts. But when satan fell he took 1/3 of the angels with him. I belive there may be enough fallen angels roaming the earth that can influence or be familiar with every person. But none alone is capable of being everwhere or knowing everything that is said or done. I also don't believe there is anyone in heaven besides God that is capable of being everywhere at once or even hearing prayers from earth. That is why I believe it is impossible for Mary or any dead saint to hear anyones prayers. For if Mary were capable of hearing every catholic prayer each day from a Billion catholics she would indeed have to be like God. That is why I pray only to God.

[blockquote]"Thou God seest me.""”Genesis 16:13.[/blockquote]

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Old 06-08-2007, 01:04 PM   #3
 
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Is there any indication in the Bible that any man or created being besides God is capable of being everywhere? Knowing everything? Hearing everything? Seems like many like to give satan credit for being able to be everywhere and know all ourthoughts. But when satan fell he took 1/3 of the angels with him. I belive there may be enough fallen angels roaming the earth that can influence or be familiar with every person. But none alone is capable of being everwhere or knowing everything that is said or done. I also don't believe there is anyone in heaven besides God that is capable of being everywhere at once or even hearing prayers from earth. That is why I believe it is impossible for Mary or any dead saint to hear anyones prayers. For if Mary were capable of hearing every catholic prayer each day from a Billion catholics she would indeed have to be like God. That is why I pray only to God.


[blockquote]"Thou God seest me.""”Genesis 16:13.[/blockquote]


I would agree, only God knows all.

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Only God is all-knowing. The devil seems to be that way, but he doesn't actually know our thoughts, he just knows how we think better than we do ourselves.
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Only God is all-knowing. The devil seems to be that way, but he doesn't actually know our thoughts, he just knows how we think better than we do ourselves.
I gree 100%. I also think that we give the devil more credit than he deserves ..... IMO, most of the struggles christians face are flesh related ...
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"[The Shepherd said:] 'But those who are weak and slothful in prayer, hesitate to ask anything from the Lord; but the Lord is full of compassion, and gives without fail to all who ask Him. But you, [Hermas,] having been strengthened by the holy angel [you saw], and having obtained from Him such intercession, and not being slothful, why do not you ask of the Lord understanding, and receive it from Him?'" (The Shepherd 3:5:4 [A.D. 80]).



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"In this way is he [the true Christian] always pure for prayer. He also prays in the society of angels, as being already of angelic rank, and he is never out of their holy keeping; and though he pray alone, he has the choir of the saints standing with him [in prayer]" (Miscellanies 7:12 [A.D. 208]).
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"But not the high priest [Christ] alone prays for those who pray sincerely, but also the angels . . . as also the souls of the saints who have already fallen asleep" (Prayer 11 [A.D. 233]).
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"Let us remember one another in concord and unanimity. Let us on both sides [of death] always pray for one another. Let us relieve burdens and afflictions by mutual love, that if one of us, by the swiftness of divine condescension, shall go hence the first, our love may continue in the presence of the Lord, and our prayers for our brethren and sisters not cease in the presence of the Father's mercy" (Letters 56 [60]:5 [A.D. 253]).
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"Atticus, sleep in peace, secure in your safety, and pray anxiously for our sins" (funerary inscription near St. Sabina's in Rome [A.D. 300]).
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Old 06-10-2007, 10:40 PM   #7
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And these qoutes were posted to prove??? They relate to God being the onlyomniscient onein what way???

Is the Father separate and distinct from the Son and the Holy Ghost?
Is the Father omniscient?

Is the Son seperate and distinct from the Father and the Holy Ghost?
Is the Son omniscient?

Is the Holy Ghost seperate and distince from the Father and the Son?
Is the Holy Ghost omniscient?

How many seperate and distinct, omniscient ones are there?
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And these qoutes were posted to prove??? They relate to God being the onlyomniscient onein what way???

They prove some people are seriously lacking in their theological studies. Of course, which amoung us wouldnt be wise to spend a bit more time devoted to reading Scripture?
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Heck, I thought you all knew I was just com menting on her apples and oranges post.
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You should stick to scripture I have seen what you come up with when you stray
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